Just heard on the news........

nothing to do with his occupation, but, obviously, if it were not Rush, there would be no prosecution. That's a political prosecution.

Post the link to what Rush said. Let's see what he said rather than what you say he said.

This is the second request to you for an actual link to Rush's words. I'm still waiting for a response.

to sit there and complain about me not jumping when you demand a link.

I remember, not so long ago, when you said RCB was a documented criminal but when I asked you for the proof you refused to back up your words.

I owe you nothing KP and will give you nothing.

when you castigated me on a supposedly late post (when it wasn't really even on the thread that Angeline had closed)... yet KP made not one but two late responses of a personal, offensive nature directed to me on that same thread after Angelines warning and you never said a word to him.

I never even joined in when another thread was started questioning the timing of those posts or your comment to me. I did not point out your partisanship in that situation but your displaying it again right now.

Now your going to make glib, taunting comments as well? KP has an obvious grudge with me... join in if you wish. No skin off my nose.

I think not, What I did was warn you the sub thread was locked. Oh well. Where have I been rude to you?? I was laughing because that is the normal answer when someone can't back up what they say Gee! I thought it was funny! And I guess you still won't post that link, Right?

Rush has made a series of comments over the years re: drug users...This pretty much sums up most of them.

''There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.

But to spread the blame evenly across socioeconomic and racial divides he goes on to say...

''What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too.''
-- Rush Limbaugh show, Oct. 5, 1995

I have never hated Rush Limbaugh. I give him more credit for intelligence than most conservative radio commentators. I think he has committed himself to statements such as this because it pleases his audience. However I don't believe he has been abused by the legal system as some here would have it. He is no innocent... by his own admission of drug addiction he falls within the ranks of the people he said needed to be held accountable. He has gone on record as not believing addiction is a disease. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve treatment instead of jail. I am saying that in the past he held that drug users should be jailed and he isn't singing the same song today. How long would he have continued to be a drug user if his secret had not been revealed (no matter the source)?


''Castigated''... ''reproofed''... ''rebuffed''... whatever. You chose to call me on it and let 2 comments from KP slide long after the betting window was closed.

AFTER another party started inserting his opinions? I was tired of his crap and was NOT trying to nail you!
Believe it or not!

Gee Grim, for an honest guy you sure are full of slick twists and turns. A turn of the phrase here, a failure to link to a source there, and pretty soon a pattern emerges.

And, BTW, I bet he still feels the same way today. Drugs are NOT good for society. There is apparently no evidence that Rush ever obtained any drug illegally or the DA would have actively pursued the charge. And he took responsibility (you say it's because he "got caught" but ignore that he tried to deal with the problem twice before) and paid for his rehab himself. Nothing hyocritical there.

The quotation was probably excised from a discussion about how the drug laws are racist and causing too many blacks to be jailed. I agree with him, that if that IS the case, the solution is not to let the blacks out of jail, it's to put more whites in jail if they are breaking the law.

Being addicted to something is NOT a crime sir. Use and possession of illegal drugs is. Obtaining legal drugs in illegal fashions is. I posted a link to how the DA wanted Rush to plead guilty to the doctor shopping charge in exchange for 3 years probation. If they really had any *goods* on him, they would have pursued it. And, frankly, should have.

when he slights someone, he professes total innocence in the matter. It's their fault rather than his.

for me to supply links showing that Grand Wizard Byrd isn't totally honest, but when it's you attacking a conservative, suddenly the rules change. I guess you only need links when you attack a liberal. When it's a conservative, minor things like his own words are unnecessary.

You have totally failed to sustain your attack/criticism of Rush Limbaugh. That's not a surprise.

you asked for proof that Rush had taken a hardline on air against drug users. I showed proof. You choose to ignore it. Why you even needed a quote is beyond me unless you have never listened to Limbaugh which I highly doubt is the case. You were grasping at straws I hazard.

You also continue to try to refute me by attacking me personally rather than addressing the discussion. I could call this typical conservative behavior but I don't rely on mud slinging to prove my assertions. Whoops... I just did

Redirect all you want by nit picking. From here on in if you have something rational to say about the subject being discussed I'll respond... otherwise, rant all you want and think you accomplished something. Just don't wrench your arm while your patting yourself on the back.

BTW... You have yet to back up your claim of known criminal behavior about Byrd. Where is your claim about rule changes now?

if you have supplied an accurate quote? Did you ever hear of Dan Rather? You have proven NOTHING yet, and it is your behaviour which is attacking you. I am simply calling a spade a spade, and I explained in great detail why I was doing so.

yet you will complain of my failure while hiding your own behavior behind solipsism.

Here''s the Google Link containing the full quote and the resulting Web Results 1 - 10 of about 346,000...

You can take it from here or is that to much factual information for you to refute?

If your looking for a short and concise review of his comments from that particular show then try this LINK by Ellis Henican of Newsday and a contributor to Fox News Channel. You don't have a problem with a FNC source do you?

Now... about you putting up or shutting up... wheres the links about RCB? You sure tried to rake me over the coals with my not putting a link when you demanded it. Are you really going to let your end of all this rhetoric you've been lording over me fall flat?

He's on FNC quite a bit, but that just goes to show that Fox DOES provide both sides of issues. He's as partisan a Democrat as one can find -- although quite likeable nonetheless.

He's got his own radio show on WOR 710 now (up against Sean Hannity).

I never quoted Grand Wizard Burd. Therefore, there was no need for me to supply a link.

So, who are you quoting? Who are you relying on? What was the source of the original quote? How accurate is something that's shown on hundreds of thousands of sites who all picked it up from each other? Where is the evidence that Rush ever said this? Who is saying that he did?

I could just respond based on the first Google site, but you would simply say that doesn't count. It would be an exercise in futility. What site are YOU looking to? Supply THE LINK.

These are the things Rush had on his mind when talking about drug abuse.

But his addiction it cost him a lot more than being charged and eventually arrested. He lost his hearing. Good thing for him, the technology was available for him to regain most of his hearing.

thats a bit more than overlapping of treatment.

If he did pay out of pocket that might (I said "might" Evie) display an attempt to avoid the medical oversight that the insurance company would provide in this matter.

What? Your the only person allowed to speculate about this?

It was reported he was part of a drug ring and a whole lot more that turned out to be bogus. Let's see what is in Monday's court filing.

Your speculation implies that those who don't participate in prescription drug programs are somehow being nefarious. If my hubby didn't use regular prescriptions, no way we would choose the insurance option we have. I would just pay cash out of pocket.

You're getting good at trying to cover your a$$ by claiming you were only speculating. Someone trying to camoflauge their strong left leanings might be predisposed to such tactics.

... LINK? What was their source? Court records? Leak from the DA?

We'll see on Monday I suppose.

so turn it on!

grim

BTW did the water damage ever get taken care of? I got caught up between school and work and lost track - Hope it worked out. also I hope the Hubby is doing OK.

... with our two schedules, getting the repairs actually done is going to have to wait until my semester ends. Thanks for the concerns. It's been a hectic time but can't complain in the end.

I have the TV on. Headline News ... nope! Sorry. If its part of the court filing on Monday, then I suppose the DA got one last hoo-rah leaking something to CNN.

Does something require Rush to only buy medications through an insurance company? That's your liberal version of how America should work. It's not Rush's.

BTW, I know it grates on liberal sensibilities, but Rush makes A LOT of money. Lots of people choose to listen to his show. That's one thing that seperates him from the Frankens of the world.

I would say treat him for a few months and forget his alleged criminal behavior because he couldn't help himself. Wah, wah, wah... he needs to be treated gently, poor soul.

Don't think I came close to saying that.