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Joke...from the mouths of babes

Mar 17, 2015 9:25AM PDT

Kindergartener in classroom where teacher is talking about whales and how one could never swallow a man because their throat is too small.

Child tells teacher, it says in the Bible that Jonah was swallowed by a whale. Teacher replies "That's impossible".

Child: "When I get to Heaven, I'll ask Jonah"

Teacher: "What if Jonah went to hell?"

Child: Then you can ask him.

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Hmm
Mar 22, 2015 5:30AM PDT

sounds like the doctor slapped the wrong end. Laugh

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RE: sounds like the doctor slapped the wrong end.
Mar 22, 2015 5:46AM PDT

The doctor knew you would like to do that.

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a list of liars....
Mar 21, 2015 10:51PM PDT

...is supposed to "prove" it?

What sort of Christian are you, trying to set aside the teachings of God against homosexuality? That's not Christian, it's anti-Christian.

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Re: teachings of God
Mar 22, 2015 12:06AM PDT

That's new to me, that God teached the animals about how to behave, sexually or otherwise. For some reason I thought that only humans have religious feelings and are able to understand God's rules about anything.

Apparently, the rules God designed for a quite near relative of us humans, the bonobo ape, are rather different from the rules he designed for us. You might not approve all you read about that in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo#Sexual_social_behavior .
Or do you think that's a lie also?


Kees

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So if science doesn't fit your knowledge of all things
Mar 22, 2015 3:31AM PDT

it must be lying? That is called self-righteousness and I believe that Jesus taught against that.

Are you a climate denier and anti-vaxxer as well?

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Even animals have a law from God
Mar 22, 2015 6:02AM PDT

I guess it's placed in their instinct, or domesticated are supposed to be properly trained.

Leviticus 28:22
'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination. 'Also you shall not have intercourse with any animal to be defiled with it, nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion. 'Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled....

Exodus 22:19
"Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal is to be put to death.

Leviticus 20:15
"'If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he is to be put to death, and you must kill the animal.

Leviticus 20:16
"'If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Deuteronomy 27:21
"Cursed is anyone who has sexual relations with any animal." Then all the people shall say, "Amen!"

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Leviticus 11:
46This
is the law regarding the animal and the bird, and every living thing
that moves in the waters and everything that swarms on the earth,

Genesis 9:

5 "Surely
I will require your lifeblood; from every beast I will require it. And
from every man, from every man's brother I will require the life of man. 6"Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed,

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Diana, it's not "MY" knowledge
Mar 22, 2015 6:05AM PDT

but delivered by God through prophets. What you describe is what the self appointed "gods of climate" are doing, putting forth their own "knowledge" as being the truth. So, if they disagree with the knowledge God gives, doesn't that make THEM the "self righteous" ones?

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Diane, I found this interesting in your post:
Mar 25, 2015 2:59AM PDT

His response was "yeah, like I would chose this".
Notice how different from Stephen Fry. I'm told Fry thinks everyone should be homosexual. (Perhaps with tongue in [his own] cheek.) In fact there are (probably) over fifty shades of gay. At one end are those who embrace it, while the suicides are at the other end.
I don't try to keep track, I just avoid the lifestyle for myself and encourage others to do so, from scripture, when the question arises. (We don't ask, but we do tell. Happy )

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who was David serving?
Mar 21, 2015 4:06AM PDT
Psalm 144

American Standard Version
1)Blessed be Jehovah my rock, Who teacheth my hands to war, And my fingers to fight:
My lovingkindness, and my fortress, My high tower, and my deliverer; My shield, and he in whom I take refuge; Who subdueth my people under me.


Psalm 18

For who is God, save Jehovah? And who is a rock, besides our God,

The God that girdeth me with strength, And maketh my way perfect?

He maketh my feet like hinds feet : And setteth me upon my high places.

He teacheth my hands to war; So that mine arms do bend a bow of brass.

Thou hast also given me the shield of thy salvation; And thy right hand hath holden me up, And thy gentleness hath made me great.

Thou hast enlarged my steps under me, And my feet have not slipped.

I will pursue mine enemies, and overtake them; Neither will I turn again till they are consumed.

I will smite them through, so that they shall not be able to rise: They shall fall under my feet.

For thou hast girded me with strength unto the battle: Thou hast subdued under me those that rose up against me.

Thou hast also made mine enemies turn their backs unto me, That I might cut off them that hate me.
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Wow, Jehovah's modern day unwitness rejecting what others have actually witnessed.
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James, David fought Jehovah's wars, not men's.
Mar 25, 2015 5:51AM PDT

Per scripture. (Samuel, Kings and Chronicles.) And Christian Witnesses of Jehovah do not fight in men's wars, per many scriptures I have supplied, but you have not read nor understood. No further need be added by me to you on this topic.

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All wars that involve soldiers are man's wars
Mar 25, 2015 6:40AM PDT

God (or Jehovah) would have no need to wage war. Think about it. Why have their been wars? Are they not fought to either show aggression or defend against it. Does God/Jehovah need to show aggression or defense? Who would God/Jehovah need to defend against aggression? Does he really need to choose sides in any conflict? What purpose would it serve for the creator or judge of final say to subdue or kill anyone?

Man, in his body, lives in the temporal world. For what purpose would God/Jehovah take that away? What difference would it make to God/Jehovah when a person got their final reward or punishment? Does the worst of sinners need to be brought down before having an opportunity to repent? Is that opportunity gone when their temporal life is gone? I'm only offering these questions rhetorically as we already should know that the wisest of men has no inkling of wisdom and power that exists in God/Jehovah.

War with soldiers is started by man and ended by man. If God/Jehovah fought a war against man in the temporal world, it would be done with man as well. That includes a war of defense. There would be no way to distinguish one type from the other and label them appropriately as man's or Gods...or so I'd think. We already know what it's good for..."Absolutely nothin'!"...and out of context scriptural references don't offer answers.

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(NT) First, your premise.
Mar 30, 2015 3:45AM PDT
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(NT) Got problems with the Library computer. Try again.
Mar 30, 2015 3:47AM PDT
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Last try to post a reply.
Mar 30, 2015 3:50AM PDT

First, your premise. The Bible has several accounts of the wars of Jehovah, fought at his command by his people. Just one example is at Joshua 6, in re Jericho. Please read v. 20,21. Jehovah prepared the way; his people did the work.
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Let's try again; different library.
Mar 31, 2015 4:48AM PDT

Your premise [that God (or Jehovah) would have no need to wage war] is not scriptural, not that it matters between us. He did so. The best known time is when Josh'a fit the battle of Jericho (Jericho, Jericho) and the walls come a'tumblin down. (Lawd, Lawd!) Jehovah smoothed the way, and his obedient people did the fighting. And your Bible teachers missed something important. Several times Jehovah did all the fighting for his name people. One is at Ex 14:13, another is at 2 Chr 20:17 ff.
Taken as a whole, your post says that wars are inevitable, so we might as well go along with the crowd. That's James' view, whenever someone (no names, but they wear beards and turbans) threatens his religion. You both need a stronger God.
The way to distinguish between the wars of God and man is in writing, as I have pointed out many times here. You can search my posts for "out of context scriptural references" if you wish. Things changed with the introduction of Christian worship of the true God by his newly created people, the Israel of God [not of Law]. Which change BTW is being remembered by us this week. http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/memorial/ Be there or be square.
Every war- Crusades, Thirty Years', WWII and on- since John 13:34,35 is unGodly. The Godly one to come is at Rev 16:14,16. Please read the surrounding passage; can you top that? Certain, permanent, no collateral damage.
I noted your question "Does the worst of sinners need to be brought down before having an opportunity to repent?" The answer of your Church is "No". The answer of scripture is "No; they are always given an opportunity and a refuge. The offer expires on the death of the recipient." Gen 2:15-17; Rom 6:23; Pro 9:4-6,10. For example, please read Joshua 2:8 ff. Does any of it apply to our day, or is it out of context?

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We already know what it's good for..."Absolutely nothin'!"..
Mar 31, 2015 5:14AM PDT
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Steve, the bible
Mar 31, 2015 5:23AM PDT

tells us a double minded person is unstable in all his ways. Jehovah Witness suffer this malady, in which they cling to the name Jehovah, but deny who He actually is. Even knowing that he changes not, they claim he did, that he is no longer the same yesterday, today and forever. Malachi 3:6, James 1:17, the truth is they give lip service to the name Jehovah, but like the Jews before them, they reject Him for who he really is.

Jehovah supports war, Jehovah doesn't support war, there goes that double mindedness again. They can not discern good from evil when it comes to establishing one and defeating the other, they have gone totally out of the way.

To them, Elijah didn't really have all those prophets of Baal executed. Joshua didn't really engage in war, that was Jehovah. Don't get them lost on Davidian wars or they'll go completely out of the way.

I've gone over it exhaustively with him, he then disappears for awhile to sulk, then comes back with the same foolishness. He will believe, what he WANTS to believe, and has blinded himself to anything else.

It is not Jehovah he worships, nor testifies for.

Here is Jehovah;

Isaiah 63
...4 "For the day of vengeance was in My heart, And My year of redemption has come. "I looked, and there was no one to help, And I was astonished and there was no one to uphold; So My own arm brought salvation to Me, And My wrath upheld Me. "I trod down the peoples in My anger And made them drunk in My wrath, And I poured out their lifeblood on the earth."

Deuteronomy 7:2
and when the LORD your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.


Joshua 11:20
For it was the LORD himself who hardened their hearts to wage war against Israel, so that he might destroy them totally, exterminating them without mercy, as the LORD had commanded Moses.

But, just like the "witnesses" today, they failed to heed his commands.

Psalm 106:34
They did not destroy the peoples as the LORD had commanded them,

Yes, there is the witness, there is the Jehovah, and you won't recognize the "Jehovah" they claim to "witness" about. There's is some other "Jehovah".

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RE: On one of the blogs somewhere I read one post that said
Mar 19, 2015 8:35PM PDT
On one of the blogs somewhere I read one post that said "gays finally were getting the ability to NOT have to choose between their job and their lifestyle"....but isn't that EXACTLY what they are forcing a careered chaplain to do?

Yes...And NOW he needs to change, OR move on.

Lt. Commander Wes Modder, who is endorsed by the Assemblies of God, has also been accused of being unable to "function in the diverse and pluralistic environment"

Didn't the military fairly recently start accepting openly gay individuals?

The military changed...now it's the Chaplains time to change OR move on.
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No, you're wrong
Mar 19, 2015 9:19PM PDT

Instead of forcing the Navy to become 'politically correct' to the point of abandoning/firing chaplains, why not instead encourage gay 'pastors' to also enlist so those who are gay have their own advisers available? That way, they won't have to go to one whose faith doesn't accept that belief and then complain about what that advice or direction might be that they receive?

What happened to 'compromise' with liberals' agendas? Are the only ones forced to compromise the ones who don't agree with you?

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RE: What happened to 'compromise' with liberals' agendas?
Mar 19, 2015 9:54PM PDT
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Nope, again
Mar 19, 2015 10:56PM PDT

"Religious and Pastoral Care".....

He wasn't approaching the gays to preach religious anything....they were coming to him, and then complained when he wasn't encouraging their lifestyle. That's NOT his job to do....if they want encouragement, they can have one of 'their own' become a pastor and join the military to do that, JP.

I guess tolerance for liberals is only a one-way street......because they don't have to practice what THEY preach.

That doesn't make me a liberal in any way, shape, or form......but it DOES make liberals a pack of hypocrites because they have no tolerance for anybody who doesn't believe or think the way they do. They sound more and more like some ISIS group as far as I'm concerned. Wipe out/erase the 'non-believers'.....

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RE: Nope, again "Religious and Pastoral Care"....
Mar 20, 2015 12:16AM PDT

YOU disregard this part?

regardless of religious affiliation.

You didn't like the link to a Canada site?

The Navy Chaplain Corps comprises more than 800 Navy Chaplains from more than 100 different faith groups, including Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and many others. Each Chaplain is also a Navy Officer - meaning each holds an important leadership role.

Chaplains offer everything from faith leadership to personal advice to much-needed solace. All while living up to the guiding principles of the Chaplain Mission:

Providing religious ministry and support to those of your own faith
Facilitating the religious requirements of those from all faiths
Caring for all service members and their families, including those subscribing to no specific faith
Advising the command in ensuring the free exercise of religion


Lt. Commander Wes Modder, who is endorsed by the Assemblies of God, has also been accused of being unable to "function in the diverse and pluralistic environment"

It looks to me like the Chaplain couldn't keep his cakehole shut, and when someone complained, he cries foul.

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Cakehole???? Now we know how you think.....
Mar 20, 2015 3:51AM PDT

A gay person comes to a chaplain......with no mention in any article that says WHAT he/she came to him for.....and complained because he/she didn't get the advice/encouragement/whatever he/she was seeking?

And 'accusation' (recently, since the military has become 'pc' according to Obama's rules?) with no other history, and an entire career, without a trial, is being forced down the toilet over some namby-pamby who can't take the military life afterall?

What this administration has done to Christianity is the same thing Holder is doing to the police departments......find ANYTHING to ***** and complain about since the courts themselves can't. They've become so good at ruining other people's lives, it's gotten pathetic. And liberals like you in our country encourage it every day........it's disgusting to live in a country you don't even recognize anymore.

Less than two more years and counting.........and hoping we're still here to fix it and that Iran and ISIS haven't made us go bye-bye.

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RE: Cakehole???? Now we know how you think.
Mar 20, 2015 4:35AM PDT

By "we" I take it you mean "you", or is someone helping you compose your post?

You can tell how a person thinks by them using the term "cakehole"?

Can you tell "me"(and the others that MAY read your response that may or may not be forthcoming) or is it a secret.... what does the use of term "cakehole" mean?

I made a typo, which I corrected...when typing forthcoming...I mistakenly entered frothcoming....THAT made me smile....Ya get it? FROTH...like when people are frothing at the mouth. Happy

I could have said he was flapping his gums...would that be more pleasing to your ears?

He was talking when he should have been listening.

I can tell how a person thinks when they use the term POS, when referring to the President Of The United States Of America, Most Americans use the term POTUS.

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My preacher was a chaplain before he came to our church
Mar 20, 2015 11:01AM PDT

He had to be able to counsel everyone of every faith or no faith whether he approved of their choices or not as long as it wasn't against military law. That means Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Taoists and atheists - including gays. There isn't the stores that won't bake a wedding cake for two dudes. If he doesn't want to counsel two guys that want to get married, he should change professions, like being a pastor at Westboro Baptist Church.

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Counseling work can be a can of worms.
Mar 20, 2015 6:48PM PDT

I'd disagree that a Christian chaplain should provide counseling that encourages anything he/she was taught to be proper teaching. In the case of marriage counseling for "two dudes", I'd say his most polite response would be to honestly admit that he was unable to help them. If they were also decent and honest, they'd accept the response and respect the chaplain for forthrightness. Confrontation by either goes nowhere that's good. In my faith, the pastor of a parish has spiritual responsibility for all within his boundaries regardless of religion. If they come to him for the type of help which is within his priestly responsibilities, he must offer it. It doesn't necessarily mean he will give in to their desires, however. He must represent an example of his teacher and act as if that teacher was watching and grading him.

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Correction
Mar 20, 2015 11:12PM PDT

Top line should be "wasn't taught" and not was taught.

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Good joke
Apr 13, 2015 4:52AM PDT

I enjoy reading jokes between a child and an adult. Sometimes, children say smarter wiser answers. Mostly, more truthful answers, too. In my OPINION.