Joke...from the mouths of babes

That IS hilarious.

...what they say about Athiest and holes in the ground. Cures Atheism I hear.

So that's the reason you do what you think is "right"?

You're afraid of what is going to happen when you're in the ground?

It works for Atheist...I works for you.

FEAR...that's a good motivator.

They do what they think is right, decided upon my themselves, because they have no godly standard to judge themselves by. That's why Lenin and Stalin murdered 3-4 times as many people as Hitler did. In Atheism, you are your own God, therefore Power is the ultimate goal. Any Atheist that doesn't believe that, is an "apostate" to his self worship.

well, you know....what they say about Athiest and holes in the ground. Cures Atheism I hear.

I know what YOU say...

Judgement is YOURS?

They do what they think is right, decided upon my themselves, because they have no godly standard to judge themselves by.

And YOU do...If there's any judging to be done...you'll be the one doing it.

They can do anything they want and justify it by saying that God wants it.

Remember that Christians justified the KKK and slavery and killing each other and burning witches and killing gays and picketing funerals and not serving gays and stopping them from getting married (just like they stopped people of different races from getting married). That is just a few things that self-righteous fundamentalist Christians justify through the Bible. And don't get me started on self-righteous fundamentalist Muslims and Jews.

What I'm saying is that an atheist is a good person or a bad person because that is what they are and do not justify it by saying God told him to.

One fired him. The other is not Jehovah, who doesn't want his ministers encouraging participation in mens' wars.

in the military who have 'encouraged participation in men's wars'.....they have always served with the sole purpose of comforting those who do the fighting and dealing with that stress with the job and absence of family. I'm not sure I understand what you may be saying. As for his being fired....he was originally hired to serve that original purpose and now, after so many years, gays and atheists are, in my opinion, deliberately setting them up to no longer be available to those who really need those chaplains.

anything related to war. My maternal grandfather was an Army chaplain during WWI and chaplaincy isn't limited to one faith. These people are also serve in harms way and one of their jobs is to make sure that soldiers understand that they have not been abandoned by their maker. Those who have no religion have no way to understand that even those who profess religious faith struggle to keep it. It may mean the difference between feeling that one has a real purpose or in not having one at all.

"encouraging participation in mens' wars" is exactly what a Chaplain is supposed to do, to earn his remuneration and keep his job. There's an Army Air Corps photo from WWII fliers about to go on a bombing mission; a Chaplain has his Communion/Mass table out and is praying for/with the kneeling soldiers. It's reprinted in many of our publications. That has not changed. We knew a Witness who had been in 'Nam and he would think your view was fantasy. One case that made him start to think was the time a Rabbi prayed before an operation (happens he's a Jew), and the bunch almost got killed by their own covering artillery.
We have men who learned the Bible while in the military, became Witnesses, and applied for discharge. The hearings were always hostile, and ALWAYS included the Chaplain- speaking for the prosecution.
That should be enough; apply the duck test.
When the 'sheep and goats' business comes down, how will Jesus view those who are in uniform at the time? How much time will he give them to defend their position?
John 13:33-35

there to come up with fancy words to encourage their team to beat down the other. That may be what folks like Patton are said to have done but Patton wasn't a chaplain. As for WWJD, I've come to believe there's no telling of that. I would say that, if soldiers were just sinners, Jesus would probably not turn his back and walk away from them. I'd also say a good chaplain wouldn't behave any differently. To the very end it would be good to have support rather than threats. No one escapes eternal damnation or gains eternal bliss out of fear. You tried to tutor on the types of love which are contained in scripture. A better answer is found in those words than in ones dealing with wrath.

But WJD (what he did) is a matter of historical record. Isa 53:1-12; Mt 26:53,67,68; Ps 22; John 13:34,35...

"The U.S. Military Vicariate not only is the largest of 30 Catholic military vicariates around the world but is also among the largest dioceses in the world." (1985, when it was created.)
"The Archbishop of Canterbury gave his clerical approval to the Falklands war yesterday," reported London's Daily Mail. In the first address an archbishop has ever given to the Royal Institute of International Affairs, Robert Runcie told the assembled diplomats that "it was right to send a task force after the Argentine invasion." He went on to advise them on how to handle the nuclear threat and disarmament.
"One [Chaplain] gave me advice that I recall to this day. He said: 'Miller, you have a fantastic Navy record and are highly respected. Your future is secure in the Navy. You are one of the youngest chief petty officers ever appointed. Don't make the terrible mistake of joining Jehovah's Witnesses, who do not salute the flag or fight for their country.' These chaplains refused to answer any of my Bible questions, and their only response was to attack well-known Witnesses who were then dead." (w83 11/15 pp. 15-16 I Will Learn War No More. A JW's WWII experience.)
"Yet something gnawed at me, a Roman Catholic, as I thought about bombing cities filled with Roman Catholics. 'The Catholic priest who lives on the base,' I said to myself, 'can help.'
"If I drop a bomb on a city in southern Germany and a thousand people are killed," I asked the chaplain, "how many would be Catholic?"
"About 95 percent," he answered. [Wrong. Lutherans first in numbers, Catholics second.]
"So what right do I have to take the lives of 950 people who are of the same religion as we are?"
The priest replied: "We are fighting a just war."
"What makes a war just?" I asked.
"You are defending your country," he said.
"We are invading Italy and Germany," I said, puzzled. "Wouldn't they believe they were fighting the just war because they were the ones defending their homeland?"
"No," he answered. "We are fighting the just war."
That answer left me even more puzzled. I then asked the chaplain: "Why did the pope, the Italian bishops and priests bless the Italian troops to fight against us, and why are German priests now doing the same to their troops?" Patting me gently on the shoulder, he replied: "You must have faith, my son. The responsibility is not on our shoulders." [Wrong. Jehovah's accounting is otherwise. That answer left me even more puzzled. I then asked the chaplain: "Why did the pope, the Italian bishops and priests bless the Italian troops to fight against us, and why are German priests now doing the same to their troops?" Patting me gently on the shoulder, he replied: "You must have faith, my son. The responsibility is not on our shoulders." [Wrong. Jehovah's accounting is otherwise. The relevant command from his Son is at John 13:34,35.]

Many more cites in our publications over the years. If your chaplain looks like a duck, preaches like a duck...

of those words are different from yours and your example. I believe that chaplains are there to encourage bravery when men and women need that the most because of the stress and fear. They aren't there to encourage a specific lifestyle and yet that seems to be the reasoning behind the complaints....

And it seems strange to me that a chaplain is being forced to decide between his faith and his job over this when there are other options that gays might have available.....but compromise to get what they want/need doesn't seem to one of those options. It's another example of pc 'my way or the highway' mentality and it doesn't matter that lives and careers will be ruined unless only one party of that compromise backs down.

that he was condemning it.....not encouraging it doesn't mean condemnation, JP.....and if gays were going to him VOLUNTARILY and are the only ones complaining, did they use a tape recorder to prove what they are saying against him? That would be the only real proof anyone would have that it was condemnation, unless it was a group effort of complaints....and that smacks of a 'setup'.

Are you saying: "CORRECT...that's the way it's supposed to be" that he is SUPPOSED to be encouraging a specific lifestyle? He could only do that if gays were specifically asking pointed questions regarding their lifestyle in order to get the response that they want........in order to prove he isn't encouraging it. THAT'S not what his job is about, JP.....he is a FAITH adviser, not a SEX adviser.....and that is where the complaint seems to be coming from with the 'unable to "function in the diverse and pluralistic environment".

This is all ******.t and even YOU know it.

He was faithful. It is the gay person who was unfaithful, both to his true nature, and the God who made him. No gay person is "born" that way. Ask him what his doctor and nurse looked like that day. He can't tell you, because he wouldn't remember. Therefore he immediately lies when he says he was born that way.

I told him about the question of when they chose to be gay or straight. His response was "yeah, like I would chose this".

The only "choice" was anything else.

"What makes your decision "right" and others "wrong"? Prove it. It says so in this book doesn't count"

The same reason some fail kindergarten, trying to put the round peg into the square hole. Some things are just too obvious the way they are supposed to be, but that only proves they are too stupid to understand it, but stubborn stupidity doesn't make them right, it just leaves them stupid.

built on lies you probably heard.

'"BTW what about all those 200+ species that have gay members?"

If that was even true, then time they went extinct.

You don't even understand what you read. The doctor said what's in the quote, then the rest is the writer's opinion on it, just as skewed as your own. The doctor's telling you there's no sexual desires for newborns, and then the other person comes to the exact opposite conclusion, either because he didn't understand what the doctor told him, or because he disagrees.

Quit trying to sexualize children, OK?

After you...

You're the one that claims everyone is "born straight"