John Kerry Supports, Opposes Border Fence

... permanent guards. Doesn't that sound bass-ackwards to you? Build a fence with intent to tear it down? Beefing up the guard force until a permanent fence can be built requiring fewer guards makes infinitely more sense.

the man cant stand by any decision, supprised he said yes when he got married

It does not make it a flip-flop.

... I merely asked if he made any sense, which he isn't. A wall takes much more time and money to erect -- you don't put up a temporary wall to later be shored up by more patrols. You put more temporary patrols until you can erect a suitable permanent wall.

... if the notion of a temp fence/permanent guard made sense to you?

I'll give you that this current situation is not an example of a flip flop. But I'll bet his current rhetoric on amnesty is a turnabout from:

"I supported and was prepared to vote for amnesty from 1986. And it is essential to have immigration reform. Anyone who has been in this country for five or six years, who's paid their taxes, who has stayed out of trouble, ought to be able to translate into an American citizenship immediately, not waiting."

yes/no/ maybe
mans a fool

I sure hope you don't do any investing, Mark -- you'd lose your shirt in short order! "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of narrow minds."

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don't be blind all your life dk your bias to the president tarnishes your objectiveity

kerry hasnt shown an inkling to haveany balls, or stick to anything

ask the people who served with him wait you beleave him

Your blinkered view of global warming science comes to mind.

IF it's wrong, what is the "right" alternative? It's just not enough to proclaim everyone else's ideas and policies to be wrong, wrong, wrong without pressenting a viable alternative and STICKING by that without flip flopping yet again!

why leave it up temp. they will just wait till its down josh.

and dont try change subject josh per usual he wants it both ways as he never sticks or has a plan.
we need a permant solution not a temporary soulution as he said.

from outer space and high enough to use this great canadian tool. obviously canada will have no problems putting anyone over a northern fence.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/

there is a good process in place with law to back it.

once the process has been followed, they are outta here.

they are non tax paying leeches and we have enough of those among our real Canadians.

Do not need to add to the numbers.

And in Canada, deported means deported, without any political brouhaha or ludicrous demonstrations.

And if the children of illegals born here want to stay, believe we have a process to deal with that as well.

We also deport 'landed immigrants' that is to say people who have legitimately applied for and received landing status in our country, who have been convicted of a felony and sentenced for a period of 3 years less one day.

have evolved into a political party that isn't even recognizable anymore as a party you can trust. They don't trust each other either and swing back and forth with major decisions as quickly as morning turns to night. The majority of the bills passed anymore are so filled with pork that the actual potatoes are lost in the overfilled meat of that pot pie and the potatoes hardly get noticed. If the added pork to the bills could actually get sliced out, the national debt could probably be paid back in record time, but removing the pork isn't in the best interests of the Dem party anymore. It's much easier to pass that pork around and point the finger of blame at other areas, such as a war, than point the finger at themselves for over-indulgence to interest groups.

TONI