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I've been saying this would happen

for a few years already....it's crappy actually to know I was right.

The internet has hurt families and relationships more than anything else out there, and even founders of social media have stated publicly that when they developed things like Facebook, they KNEW what would happen and because big bucks were involved, they did it anyhow.

https://www.yourmodernfamily.com/scary-truth-whats-hurting-kids/

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The picture of the kids with smart phones in their hands

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It's not just them but adults as well. While I cannot blame the phones or technology in general, it's obvious that such things are replacements for something that's been missing. Yesterday morning I took my wife's car in for service and sat in the waiting room during that time. I already knew what I'd be seeing in that room. Every person, but myself, sat there like a zombie fingering their phone. It reminded me of watching monkeys grooming each other by picking nits from their hair. In past days, although it might have been awkward, strangers would actually strike up conversations in such places. Not any more...and if they do, it would be to pass the phones around looking at pictures or "selfies" they'd taken.

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(NT) IF the weather was decent..I'd go for a walk

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get an RV

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and in winter park in Slab City, California, for free. You can do a lot of walking there.

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RE:get an RV

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:get an RV and in winter park in Slab City, California. You can do a lot of walking there.

As long as you're armed?

Aren't people afraid of "walking" anywhere in California?...they do have "sanctuary cities" there.....

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Yup

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I see it constantly.
People walking on the street playing with this little box.
People driving a vehicle playing with this little box.
People in the market hollering into this little box.
I don't own a little box so I don't understand the need for a little box.

It's like an electronic leash.
In my day it was called a pager which I was forced to wear.
When I retired turning in that thing was a plus.

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RE:I've been saying this would happen

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and here ya' are, using the technology that you're complaining about, to complain about technology.

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Sitting at home at a PC is NOT

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the same as feeling the need to carry it with you wherever you go so you can let the entire world know where you are and who you are with.

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RE:so you can let the entire world know where you are and wh

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so you can let the entire world know where you are and who you are with.


The entire world?

OR the people that SOMEONE ELSE decides to communicate with?

Ever think of carrying a small radio with earbuds....great for not hearing something YOU don't want to hear AND they don't have to listen to what you're hearing....that's called a "2fer"

When others are on their phone sending selfies, some would pick up a magazine and read (focus on what's in front of them).

IF thine eyes offend thee...close thine eyes?
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Social media ruins the family?

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Social media ruins the COUNTRY?

Tillerson Prints Out Trump’s Tweets to Help Set Foreign Policy

When he’s not composing tweets from his bed in the palatial East Wing of the White House, Donald Trump will sometimes dictate his thoughts aloud to an aide. It’s a fitting, if somewhat anomalous, system for a president who is famously tech averse. While Trump has embraced social media—and Twitter in particular

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And yet, when BO

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embraced social media to 'community organize' the younger generation in 2008 and again in 2012 for his voter base, it was hailed as 'genius'......Trump uses it and it's shameful to the liberals. Oh well......

I've also said for years that eventually the Republicans would learn from the Dems and use their own tools against them.......perhaps not ALL Republicans have figured it out, but TRUMP did immediately.

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RE:would learn from the Dems

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Well, there goes YOUR arguments AGAINST Obama.....

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Hi, followers!

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Here I am, riding in my car!

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Then look in your rear view mirror

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I've a hood mounted missile radar locked on your exhaust. Happy

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Absolutely

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Hi Toni,

Nice to 'see' you after all this time. I guess it has been a decade or something like it since I dropped off the radar here, so it is nice to read from you and some of the other "original gangstahs" so to speak. :^)

You might be interested in the research of Sherry Turkle who has written several books on the influence of electronics on society. One is "Alone Together" subtitled "Why we expect more from technology and less from each other" (2011 but still highly relevant IMO) which is excellent writing and quite even-handed. She has also written two previous books - "Life on the Screen" (1995) and "The Second Self" (1984) which cover similar material. I have yet to read these earlier books but reviews are generally the same. As she notes, she is not anti-technology but pro-conversation (as in face to face).

I myself feel that we should heed such warnings especially for our children/heirs but almost as urgently for those who are slightly older or even late-comers to the "digital age" as Turkle shows that age/wisdom is no real immunity from the detrimental affects of too much "screen-time"/connectedness.

Maybe the internet is just too addictive? I love computers and can spend way too much time online at times but still have yet to get an actual 'smart' phone so call me a semi-Luddite. :^)

Rick "chocobunny" Jones

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Seems easy enough to fix.

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Just ban everyone under 21 from buying a cellphone. And pass a law requiring everyone under 21 who currently has a cellphone to turn it in to the government.

And before anyone cries about their 1st Amendment Rights, it's not like everyone would be banned, just those under 21. And they can still use landlines and desktop computers.

On top of which, when the Constitution was written, there weren't even rotary phones. So there's no way the Framers could've envisioned these automatic-dailing "assault" phones that we have now that dial faster than any human could.

Besides, no one "needs" a cellphone.

But if they want one, they should have no objection to passing a background check (for bullying/harassment) and mental heath records check (to prove they are stable enough to handle the effects of social media use).

We should also limit everyone to, say, 10 posts/updates per day.

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I don't own a cell

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I don't use social media.

When I leave the house I don't want to be bothered with some phone call.

Every place I go everyone is carrying that little box and they are fixated on it.

It's like an electronic leash.

Had enough of that nonsense from carrying a pager for over 20yrs.

Even the schools are having problems teaching kids anything.

The kids are playing with their little box and not paying attention.

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Bought a battery pack for mine.

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Called a bulk charger. Charges mine twice before I need to reload at an outlet. They can have that when they pry it from my cold, dead pocket.

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A rechargeable recharger?

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This is getting to be nuts. You've probably seen those flashlights that you just shake a few times to charge up enough to run an LED lamp. There are also "kinetic" watches that charge up by your arm movements. Guys who hang out in bars probably love them but why don't you invent such a device that works with your phone? If the battery gets low, just give it a few violent shakes and you're back on again. Of course you'd not want to be too close to someone else who also had such a thing and one could get bruised by the badly addicted. There's no safe place in public areas anyway.

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The generation gap

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I think this is turning to generations gap, because some generations didnt live with technology, middle aged generations only partially and now they are forced to use it in work, and the youngest generation doesnt even know how it looks to live without it. Anyway, I like the technology and development of it. But, I still prefer some other things than sitting there and watching the box, I rarely use tv watch only historical topics, use phone to send message and receive call, and computer only when have nothing to do. So, yes I still prefer real nature than artifical one.

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Just now one of my apps posted an ad at the bottom,

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for a podcasting app. "Don't let your ear be lonely"! Only in broken English.
Anyone notice the date of Toni's OP? Pre-fb-disaster. Happy
What? Me on my phone at an ungodly hour??? Uh, no, this is ... a prerecording. Yeah, that's the ticket. Prerecording.

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"big bucks"

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Per an Economist article yesterday, you [we] didn't know the half.
'The fb business model encouraged posting of inflammatory info, and with no restrictions on the ads.'
Of course each fed the other. The Z made some changes, at gunpoint, but it seems the poison was only diluted, not eliminated.
Now, it's clear*, the poisons got into the American political bloodstream. Glad its not my system.

*Nothing to do with the outcome of any particular election in American history. The influencing was attempted, with some success. Sound bites live!

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