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Its to hot

Oct 28, 2005 7:54AM PDT

My cpu is now runing at 223f since we installed a new hard drive . Is this normal?

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Not at all. However the reading is very likely TOTALLY
Oct 28, 2005 10:39AM PDT

incorrect. At 106 C [223 F] the CPU should have turned the system off if it is an Intel, or the CPU fried if an older AMD, or shutdown if one of the newer ones.

We need to know a lot more about your system, how the temp is being read, and details of how you went about installing the hard drive.

BTW, at this temp indication, is the system operating??? I guess that I assumed that it was, that's why I said that the reading was very likely incorrect.

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system profile
Oct 28, 2005 5:22PM PDT

i had a tec in from hp and he installed the new hard drive.
its a hp media center m1195c pentium 4 hyperthreading

512 memory 250 gig hard drive western digital, it had a 250 gig Maxtor hard drive that sounded like a time bomb that made the system shutdown

Ever since he put the new hard drive in the fans have been running up on high
I checked the Bios and it said that the Cpu temp was
160 c /223 f.

hope this is what you need to help me out .

The system seems to be running fine but the fan is driving me nuts.

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Pentium 4's will begin to
Oct 29, 2005 2:28AM PDT

throttle down in speed in the 60 C [140 F] range and uissue an order to the mobo to shut the power supply off in the low 75 C [167 F] range. The temp readings are obviously invalid.

Re the fans, my suspicion is that the HP tech decided that the hard drive was failing because it was getting too hot, so he disabled the automatic fan control speed and has the fan running with full 12 volts all the time. I don't know how he did it, but if he fooled with the fan sensor, it may have fouled up the readings.

The problem with these HP and Compaq and Dell systems is that they stuff it all in a too small case that looks neat, but creates a cooling nightmare.

I would climb all over HP regarding incompetent tech support by that individual.

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help
Oct 31, 2005 12:05AM PST

so what is the answer. What do i do to fix the problem.

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Definitely make it an HP problem.
Oct 31, 2005 5:43AM PST

Hopefully the speed fan input by linkit will provide realistic temp data.

The fact that the fan noise bothers you makes it seem clear that the HP tech did something that made the readings meaningless.


I really don't know what can be done by the tech to cause the readings to be so wrong. Again, this action by HP is absolutely reprehensible and they should be shamed into correcting it.

This is based on my assumption that the software/sensors that are making the temperature readings are what came with the HP system when it was new.

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fans
Oct 31, 2005 1:35AM PST

Try a Windows utility like SpeedFan to get another reading of temperatures (use Celsius temperature scale). Also, what fan speeds (in rpm) are listed?

After you run SpeedFan, take the side panel off the computer while it is powered off, so you can see which fans are running. What do you see?

If your only problem is fan noise, you should be able to replace the fans with quieter models. You might even be able to install larger models. But why do this yourself when it seems that HP is responsible?

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fans (correction)
Oct 31, 2005 3:09AM PST

I WROTE:
"After you run SpeedFan, take the side panel off the computer while it is powered off, so you can see which fans are running. What do you see?"

SHOULE BE:
After you run SpeedFan, take the side panel off the computer while it is powered off. Power on the computer to see if all fans are running. What do you see?