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It was here, now it's gone?

Feb 20, 2004 5:59AM PST

The "Rule of the Rapists" thread was on the tree, although for a little while today it wouldn't open for me. Now I look and it seems to be gone.

Not that I'm complaining Wink but do threads automagically disappear after they get 200 replies?

Cindi

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(NT)Or after they get too contentious?
Feb 20, 2004 6:40AM PST

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Hi Cindi - lol - It's gone where all useless threads go - into the depths of hell - We will call it cyber hell :)
Feb 20, 2004 8:53AM PST

That wouldn't be a bad idea - exceed 200 posts and off it goes - could be a software problem - the system has been configured for only a few posts per thread, and just because the limit can be worked around with a 5224, it doesn't mean that other parts of the system will fire off and destroy the thread.
Another possibility is that someone has decided that the thread contains over 90% of aggravation, and just got rid of it.
I totally dislike very large threads because they become unreadable. This one did at one point. There were so many multiple chats going down that the posts on the right could not be read on my monitor.
I rarely become involved with large threads because of the number of internet gates between the U.S server and the U.K which really slows things down when dealing with threads of that size.
Hope you are feeling well Cindi, and nice to see you on here Happy)))

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LOL, I'm curious. What would you call a useful thread?
Feb 20, 2004 10:48AM PST

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You know what I often notice, Steve? Those that call a thread useless and unreadable are usually some of the ones that posted in it the most. Happy

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Re:LOL, I'm curious. What would you call a useful thread?
Feb 20, 2004 11:18AM PST

Hi Rosalie,
I made quite a few posts in communication with Evie, which I found very pleasant, and worth while from my perspective, but as far as the main subject was concerned I did not address, chiefly because so much animosity was being shown that I thought a sensible post would just be ignored, as it has been in the past.
I admit I really enjoyed chatting with Evie, but the general value of the thread, in relation to the terrible things some of the Arabic women have to put up with, was very poor. I.M.O

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Re:Re:LOL, I'm curious. What would you call a useful thread?
Feb 21, 2004 12:22AM PST

Hi Steve,

I too enjoyed chatting and hope more opportunites to do just that will arise in the future.

If you or anyone here has any question remaining as to who is really interested in the health or civility of this forum, they need only look at their reaction to you for daring friendship with someone they don't approve of. Childish really.

Evie Happy

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Feb 21, 2004 7:30AM PST

not really. Devil

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What a hoot Evie - all the responses have been deleted - shikes! they must have been bad :) NT
Feb 21, 2004 6:44AM PST

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Now, Evie!! :-)
Feb 21, 2004 9:59AM PST

I really enjoyed the few emails we've shared in the past.

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Hi Steve
Feb 20, 2004 10:50PM PST

Hi Steve,

I wonder how long a thread can get without using the 5224 workaround? Like Glenda said, I think Lee is the only one that can pull a thread and not leave a trace, but I can't imagine waiting so long to pull it, that's why I thought maybe it disappeared somehow on it's own.

I agree with the unreadability of the long threads, between scrolling off the page, and number of pages, it's a real time hog.

I'm feeling a bit of alright, thanks for asking. And it's always good to see you here as well. Happy I've been trying to stay out of the more contentious threads, which doesn't leave much!

Cindi

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Same as you Cindi - I cannot be bothered with all the aggro - I prefer to be involved in a good discussion without attacks :( NT
Feb 21, 2004 9:13AM PST

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What happened to it? Anyone know for sure?
Feb 20, 2004 12:04PM PST

How could a 200+ thread not have a single post worth saving? More likely a glitch. Forums that lose 200+ threads too often hurt the whole membership.

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Re:What happened to it? Anyone know for sure?
Feb 20, 2004 1:19PM PST

As far as I know Lee Koo is the only one that can remove a whole thread and not leave a message deleted notice. Maybe he was trying to stop it from getting worse.

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Re: Removal of whole thread....
Feb 21, 2004 1:39AM PST

Yes, I believe DaveK and Toni mentioned before that only Lee Koo could delete a whole thread. Lee Koo has very well established and demonstrated a great reluctance to delete any threads, whole or single. He has shown this quite often even in his own forum.


It is also apparent that he will delete a whole thread when DaveK complains or he gets enough complaints with Dave's.

Guess you have also noticed the "Charlie" thread in Feedback has also been completely remove. I don't think Lee would have removed that thread without complaints from above, although people who usually talk civil to each other started to bite and stab in that thread, and it was also critical to some Mod's.

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Another bug maybe?
Feb 21, 2004 12:44AM PST
do threads automagically disappear after they get 200 replies?

Good question. We had some threads on the old software exceed 400 if I remember correctly. If there's some limit set in the software it needs to be adjusted for this forum.
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Re:Another bug maybe?
Feb 21, 2004 1:17AM PST
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No bug Clay IMO. See my post above. The deleted whole threads were kinda earthy & vicious, but
Feb 21, 2004 1:48AM PST

did contain a lot of enlighting information. I'm a believer in letting the threads stand, after all this is SPEAK EASY and people should be able to SPEAK freely within the TOS. Heck, just delete those that go quite overboard with the TOS.

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You're right, it's probably just CENSORSHIP :-(
Feb 21, 2004 1:51AM PST
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Oops. ^^^ NT ^^^
Feb 21, 2004 1:52AM PST
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But without knowing for sure what the cause of it's disappearance was;
Feb 21, 2004 6:39AM PST

...maybe it should be reported as a possible glitch in Feedback Forum to be investigated.

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The secrecy is absurd
Feb 21, 2004 10:14PM PST

Lee would do himself and CNet well to merely post a short note "Rule of Rapists has been deleted in its entirety" and all this unnecessary speculation would be ended.

While there were worthwhile posts in that thread, I can understand when a thread just deteriorates into being a mod alert fest that pulling it makes life easier on the administrator. People are acting like their posts here are some golden words that if deleted they are being irreparably harmed or the vast masses are being unjustly deprived of their wisdom. Really folks, nothing any of us write here is of great consequence in the broader scheme of things in this life.

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Well, they have made some improvement
Feb 22, 2004 3:52PM PST

At least they are announcing when a dupe was removed, for awhile it looked like there were a lot of offensive posts. Now if that could be expanded to when a thread is removed, if indeed that's what happened here.

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The value of serious debates ...
Feb 22, 2004 6:50PM PST

for me is that they give a perspective on many issues which is wider than the often singular view offered up by media. It is because forum members speak from differing standpoints that the debates are interesting and it is inevitable that conflicts will arise.

What I don't understand is why anyone thinks it is necessary to win a debate, but more to the point, if they do think it necessary, how they expect to win if they have nothing further of value to add to it by their subsequent posts.

It is selfish IMO that our time is wasted by opening posts (there is no quick way with this software) which make no contribution and can be of interest to no-one other than the poster.

Perhaps we should come up with a post - a bit like "NT" - such as "Not a worthwile post". This would be taken to mean that the previous post is neither accepted nor agreed, but it is clear that further postings will be futile. I'm all for a NAWP standard post - what do you folks think?

Regards
Mo