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Is this racial profiling?

Apr 15, 2004 11:06PM PDT

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The problem I see is with the 'dragnet' ...
Apr 15, 2004 11:19PM PDT

... not the focus on race.

I have no problems with there being a database of DNA profiles of those with criminal records, but given the blurring of lines in the fingerprint arena, I am very wary of what can come with DNA.

Used to be there was only a criminal fingerprint database. Well, now teachers, anyone who works with kids, etc. are routinely fingerprinted for the purposes of background checks. I heard of a school where kids use a thumbprint in a machine to buy their meals in the school cafeteria recently. Are we sure these records are kept separate?

The instant reaction is that if one is innocent one has nothing to fear. And a false DNA match is practically impossible. But then what becomes of that DNA profile if it is not a match in this case? Is it expunged, or is it tucked away so that at some later date it can be scanned again.

The dragnet should be limited to those who DID match a description or gave probable cause to detain for questioning.

Evie Happy

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Re: gotta luv a good laugh on a friday evening ;-)
Apr 15, 2004 11:58PM PDT

#The dragnet should be limited to those who DID match a description or gave probable cause to detain for questioning#

"officer, he was a black male"

"Captain, he resisted"

Happy

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Re:Re: gotta luv a good laugh on a friday evening ;-)
Apr 16, 2004 12:37AM PDT

LOL!

Got me Wink

On a serious note, I'm not even sure the DNA should be taken as a first course from anyone just because they resemble a suspect. This seems to be the case, rather than after questioning determined the person could have been at the time/place of the crimes. Yes, the DNA could exhonerate quickly, but is much more "invasive" in terms of future privacy concerns IMO. If I were suspected of a crime on the basis of matching a description (I apparently have a "twin" living in this area!), I would expect more than that before offering up a DNA sample.

Evie Happy

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Re:Is this racial profiling? Maybe not. Stupid? Absolutely.
Apr 16, 2004 12:15AM PDT

This is no Sherlock Holmes we're talking about here.

Dan

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Re:Is this racial profiling?
Apr 16, 2004 7:13AM PDT

Hi, Dave.

IMO, it's not racial profiling. It is, however, too broad, indiscriminate and arbitrary to pass Constitutional muster. It's also the type of ham-handed "investigation" that so often promotes suspicion and resentment in people, especially in minority populations.

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It's Charlottesville...
Apr 16, 2004 7:26AM PDT

where the town police approach their work with the mindset that the entire population is nothing but a bunch of college kids (U. of VA) who can be kept in line (or at least kept over on Rugby Road where the only damage they can cause is to the frat houses...) with a bit of over-the-top "show of authority." The kids are either 1) used to having no rights to speak of as mere "students" or 2) unaware of their rights. Thus the police can get away with taking a few liberties in their work procedures (pun intended). Whether this publicity will result in a better police department is unknown.

dw