Is Osama a fan of left-wing blogs?

He's a right winger; it's just a coincidence that what he says and what the lefties say is often identical.

How do you know he's not a MM fan? Moore even strongly opposed the invasion of Afghanistan, where Osama was hiding out. For all you know they are frat buddies.

I'm not making a claim one way or the other. The writer ought to have at least some evidence that he is a fan before making such a claim though.

are strictly accidenntal.

Squirm away. You know he has a point.

in the 2004 election?

....that what Osama bin Laden tells us he wants and what he really wants are the same thing.

Has it occurred to you that he keeps warning us to get out of Iraq precisely because he knows we'll do the opposite? He's gotta be LOVING the fact that we're mired in this mess over there.

hurts doesn't it?

I bet he LOVES his guys getting blown up and captured. Yeah, that's it.

Osama KNOWS that the only help he gets or will get from the West is from the LIBERALS.

That's why he sends them on suicide missions in airplanes and laughs at the fact that half of them don't know it's a suicide mission.

We are winning. We kill or capture these guys in droves. Another big catch was announced the other day. We decimated the Taliban and Osama is on the run. We are beating them.

Is that what you think Osama wants? It's an absurd theory. No analyst seriously claims that Osama is playing a game of opposites.

The only purpose for this weak and ridiculous theory is to get liberals off the hook for giving comfort to the enemy and boosting their morale. Please.

If you know anything about their fanaticism, you know that this doesn't mean we're beating them.

There are millions of people who see bin Laden as a hero. The solution to that problem isn't to kill them all; it's to examine the reasons a maniac like that became a hero and address them, ideally with the cooperation of the governments of the countries in which this kind of support festers. That's where some level of diplomatic skill would be helpful and so far this administration has not demonstrated to me that they possess it.

Thanks for proving my point.

....you have to pull it out by the roots. Constantly mowing the lawn won't do it.

Until and unless you address the causes of terrorism, you will never defeat it. That's not liberalism; that's common sense.

We're doomed.

....as long as we can stay afloat until November 2008. Then, with any luck at all, this long national nightmare will come to a merciful end.

The thought of liberals using a feelgood approach to combat (rather NOT combat) terrorism.

The merciful end of ignoring reality.

"Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for the West as it commits suicide." ? James Burnham.

I'm not saying military action is never warranted. I'm just saying military action alone is not going to solve the problem.

If yours is different, you're welcome to share it. That's what this forum is all about.

They're the ONLY ones dying?

US troops killed approx 2400, Injured approx 17,000

That's reality.

compared to just about every war in our history (Desert Storm and Grenada the only exceptions I believe). There were days in the Civil War that had more killed than we have seen in the entire Iraq conflict. Same for WW II I believe. Extremely low, to the disappointment of some on the left I think.g me we would soon

I remember the predictions when the war started. Much, much higher casualties were predicted. I remembert one lib tellin see 50 American deaths a day.

Maybe you think we shouldn't be fighting them? Yeah, that's what the enemy thinks too.

"Very low casualties compared to just about every war in our history (Desert Storm and Grenada the only exceptions I believe). There were days in the Civil War that had more killed than we have seen in the entire Iraq conflict. Same for WW II I believe."

Ad that makes it OK? Try telling the families of the fallen that!

My point is that I see the left painting this as a terrible disaster, we are bogged down, can't win,etc. They are wrong IMO.

In war people die. Better to have low causalties than high, don't you think?

what kind of "help" he gets from the so called Liberals in the West?

Moral support. The pressure for us to withdraw. What do you think the enemy wants? Why do you think they make those tapes? Why do you think they are using the rhetoric of the left?

If OBL wanted anyone to win the elections 2004 he would put billions of $ into the campaign and we would be overwhelmed by the propaganda in the media. Who had the money? I think B&C did.

That's not what I'm saying. He's playing the left wing because they suit his purposes.

I'm not saying the lefties have the same ideology as he does; only that their wishes and desires coincide on certain points, vis-a-vis the West and the war on terrorism. As Gore Vidal said, "the war on terror is like the war on dandruff." It suits al Qaida's purposes to have folks not committed to fighting them or who don't see them as a threat.

When it comes to the Islamofascists I don't think the traditional left to right spectrum we are used to in the West applies directly.

...I actually agree with you to a point on this. I think there are people on the Far Left, especially young people, who don't ''get it'' or have very short memories.

However it is important to remember that there are also lots of people (like me) who fully supported the action in Afghanistan and the effort to destroy Al Qaeda, but who think the invasion of Iraq was a distraction from that effort, has hindered it, and has caused an erosion of support for that effort from other countries.