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Is Microsoft Edge worth it, or should I just move on?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / March 31, 2017 5:06 PM PDT

I started having so many problems with Microsoft Edge that I deleted it from my computer. I may try downloading it again, since your suggestions indicate it is still a viable browser. Have other readers had problems with Edge failure? Are there any advantages to Edge versus other browsers, or should I just move on? Thank you for the great work, the advice and recommendation from your readers have helped me solve many problems and given me valuable insights over the years!

--Submitted by Joseph S.

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Edge is still an immature app.
by rjd1983 / March 31, 2017 7:11 PM PDT

While an improvement over IE, it still lacks a lot of features compared to IE, or the other mature browsers such as Chrome or Firefox. Edge is only a couple of years old, and needs to mature before it can really compete with features from Google or Mozilla.

With that said, apparently Edge uses less system resources and battery power compared to Chrome or FF, as it's been integrated into Windows (I said apparently, because I use Chrome on my Surface, and W10 keeps nagging me about how much better Edge is at saving me battery). It does have a nifty feature called Reading View, which essentially strips the webpage back to basics, stripping most formatting out of it, and adverts, giving you a simple, easy to view page, that requires less resources to run. I don't believe FF or Chrome have a feature like that.

But that's really about it as Pros in my opinion. It's still an immature app, that needs to grow more, which it will in time.

At the end of the day, it's which browsing experience you prefer. Chrome is good if you want the total Google experience, including Google tracking you. Firefox is that alternate browser, that's been around for years, trusted, and very mature. But I found Firefox was a bit a resource hog, even on a powerful machine, so I switched to Chrome and found it less resource heavy...

Try FF, Edge, and Chrome out, and see which you prefer. Some people prefer Volkswagen, some people prefer GM.

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Firefox Reading Mode
by Hforman / March 31, 2017 8:45 PM PDT

Firefox has a "Reader View". The icon, if available for the page, is on the right side of the address bar.

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(NT) I stand corrected.
by rjd1983 / April 1, 2017 12:56 PM PDT
In reply to: Firefox Reading Mode
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Good to know
by 1dat / April 1, 2017 7:42 PM PDT
In reply to: Firefox Reading Mode

Thanks for the info. I had never noticed the "open book" before. That will come in handy for some sites that seem over zealous in presenting ads.

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Wan't Meant as a Correction
by Hforman / April 1, 2017 9:44 PM PDT
In reply to: Firefox Reading Mode

I was just letting you know..

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Available to Try
by Hforman / March 31, 2017 8:48 PM PDT

One of the nice things about web browsers is that most are "free" and you can download and install them easily. You can try Chrome (but I suggest reading Google's privacy policy and terms first), Safari, Firefox and any others. If you don't like them, you can uninstall them and go back to Edge. I think it amounts to personal taste. People like different things and you can try all of them.

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Drilling down a bit:
by richteral / April 1, 2017 8:39 AM PDT
In reply to: Available to Try

To improve on privacy, there is the open-source Chromium instead of Chrome; there is also the Comodo Dragon for enhanced security. Then there is the Slimjet browser - very fast due to integrated add-ons, although close-source. Standard Gibson Research testing shows all of the above as fairly safe on my systems.

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Comodo Dragon was slapped around for not as it seems.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 1, 2017 8:44 AM PDT
In reply to: Drilling down a bit:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comodo_Dragon notes it in security issues. Just one of the issues was left unpatched for 90 days and the patch failed when issued.

Comodo has been mum about this so I'd re-think if this is viable today.
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Don't delete it have more than one browser.
by StevenLimbrick / April 1, 2017 12:56 AM PDT

Unfortunately Microsoft have made the new Edge Browser rediculously hard in certain areas. I found it to be a very unfriendly browser as it is not easy to change things until you have studied it properly. It has a lot of annoying actions. But things can be changed on it. The favourites are a pain and no where near as easy as IE so this really needs sorting. Anyway we all feel different about certain areas of it especially the search as Microsoft are hell bent on you using Bing etc.

I have three browsers as win 10 comes with Edge and IE so you can use or go between the two. I use Chrome mostly and very happy with it most of the time but it too still has problems that Google just do not seem to clear up such as smooth scrolling it is terrible on a lot of sites as it takes forever sometimes to load properly so you can scroll. But most off the time it is fast as Edge and visa versa. I feel Edge can be improved on in time. But don't delete it as it is always good to have another browser if one does not work on certain sites. None of them are perfect....

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Agree
by rje49 / April 14, 2017 5:56 PM PDT

I agree about how it can be difficult to use, and tough to find things. That's what happens when you have a browser made for a phone but use it on a large screen; you have compactness and hidden features when you don't need them.

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Edge
by Prof321 / April 15, 2017 6:37 PM PDT

I have Chrome and Firefox. Excellent choices.

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Entirely personal preference
by MightyDrakeC / April 1, 2017 2:51 AM PDT

You don't describe the problems you had with Edge. I've not read of any major issues that people are seeing. So, my vague impression is that, while it might not be particularly customizeable, it is generally solid.

Personally, I've only ever run Edge a few times. On the last couple of new computer purchases or setting up machines for friends and family, pre-installed with Win 10, I only ran Edge long enough to visit ninite.com, to grab the browsers I use regularly.

I use Firefox as my primary browser and Chrome as my secondary browser. The secondary is for when I need to log into the same site with two different logins. Or, if Firefox has been running for a while, I'll restart it and browse something on Chrome while I'm waiting.

The Firefox addons I would hate to surf without are Tree Style Tabs and the generically named Session Manager. If you keep a lot of tabs open, Tree Style Tabs will change the way you use a browser. Tabs at the top really are a horrible way to present that information. There are also several other addons that I use almost daily.

There is a tree-style addon for Chrome. But, by necessity, it runs in a separate window. Possibly, I could get used to that. But, the few times I've tried it, it felt cumbersome.

I know people call Firefox a resource hog. But, the machines I use regularly have 8 or 16 GB, so they can handle Firefox just fine.

Just my minuscule opinion,

Drake Christensen

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16 GB of RAM???
by rjd1983 / April 1, 2017 5:15 AM PDT

Why does a browser need 16 gig of RAM???? Unless you're doing video editing, or CAD, or similar, you don't need that much....

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Missed the point
by MightyDrakeC / April 1, 2017 1:59 PM PDT
In reply to: 16 GB of RAM???

Yes, I do do some amateur video editing. I'm also a gamer. And, a programmer. So, my current 3-yr-old main machine has 16 GB. My previous main machine is now my chat/surf machine on the other side of my desk. It has 8 GB. My previous laptop lasted me over six years, and by buying a refurbished unit, it wasn't that much more for 16 GB. So, I future-proofed the one I just bought.

So, I can justify my RAM. But, that still misses my point. Which is: Even with hundreds of tabs open, an 8 GB machine easily handles Firefox.

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Try Cyberfox
by GolferJL / April 1, 2017 7:01 AM PDT

I discovered a browser called Cyberfox, which I have used for years. It is an offshoot of FireFox. I have never had a problem with it.
It works on both my wife's Win7 laptop and on my 2 Win10 laptop's. It has all the features of FireFox, loads quickly. I had a tech geek check it out and gave it thumbs up. I have nothing against Microsoft's browsers, but, it seems they are exploited by hackers more, and who needs that grief.

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IE6 Was Bad
by rjd1983 / April 1, 2017 11:29 AM PDT
In reply to: Try Cyberfox

IE6 has been labelled as one of the worst products of all time, due to its flaws... But newer versions have performed much better over the years. But MS knew it was time to retire IE and replace with a new browser.

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IE11 Anyone?
by hansa / April 1, 2017 9:16 AM PDT

Windows 10 still has IE11 built in. There is a convenient link (...) within Edge to use IE for the site you are on. When I need more bells and whistles, I flip into IE.

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Or...
by 1dat / April 1, 2017 7:58 PM PDT
In reply to: IE11 Anyone?

You can set IE as the default:
Settings/System/Default Apps/Web Browser
Choose your favorite as default.

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A Few Adjustments May Help (or Not)
by AjTrek / April 1, 2017 12:38 PM PDT

Hi Joseph

It’s unfortunate you’re having problems with the Windows Edge browser. I haven’t experienced issues with Edge to the magnitude that you are suggesting. In truth, I’m OK with it.

More information about the type of problems you are having with Windows Edge would be helpful. Thus far the responses (emphasis on responses) have been pretty much generic. That’s not to say that the responses aren’t helpful; if you are looking for an opinion on how Edge compares to Safari, Chrome, Firefox or even IE11.

Your question on the other hand IMO appears to be more about Edge’s ability or stability not to cause problems (whatever they are) or worst case scenario crash and what preventive measures can be taken (i.e. tweaks). In fact, your post (by a stretch) parallels the Cnet Community post by Wayne H., wherein he asked for recommendations to resolve an issue of one of four accounts on a single computer that kept crashing. Here’s the link to his post:

https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/one-pc-four-windows-accounts-only-one-account-has-problems/#post-269c9592-4271-4b6d-b56a-30c2b66442ee

Like I said the comparison requires a stretch of the imagination. However, in the aforementioned post I suggested that based upon a recent article the one account that was crashing could be the result of having been compromised by a documented Edge and IE11 hack vulnerability. At the time a patch was yet to be released by Microsoft. Here’s the link to that article:

https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/one-pc-four-windows-accounts-only-one-account-has-problems/#post-269c9592-4271-4b6d-b56a-30c2b66442ee

I’m not saying (that for a fact) your problems are related, but I will ask if you regularly take the Win10 updates? Edge unlike its predecessors is more heavily engrained in the Win10 OS making it essential to keep Win10 updated.

Also, as has been mentioned Edge is still a maturing App and as such doesn’t play well with all extensions. I use Norton security and its security tool bar extension isn’t compatible with Edge. Bottom-line you have to make sure any extensions you use are Edge compatible, if not you may experience browser stability issues.

I don’t know your level of compute expertise, but have you clicked on the three horizontal dots (…) in the upper right corner of the Edge App to reveal links to active Extensions and Settings? Once in Settings you can make tertiary adjustments and also tap into Advanced Settings for more adjustments.

The Advanced Settings, gives you access to features like:
1. Show the home button
2. Block pop-ups
3. Use Adobe Flash Player
4. Offer to save passwords
5. Manage saved passwords
6. Save form entries
7. Search in the address bar with..
8. Show search suggestions as I type
9. Options for Cookies
10. Use page prediction to speed up browsing
11. Smart Screen Filter (protection for malicious sites)

That’s all I have to offer and I’m not sure if what I presented came even close to what you’re seeking as an answer. As to whether or not Edge is worth it...is a personal choice as voiced by others. That decision relies heavily upon your ability to stabilize Edge to your satisfaction. If not, then by all accounts Edge is not worth it (the hassle,) if a better alternative exists.

I do hope you resolve your issues to improve your computing experience either with Edge or another browser. Good Luck!

Together Everyone Achieves More = TEAM

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edge is still work in process
by renegade600 / April 1, 2017 2:05 PM PDT

I do not use edge. I use other browsers because of the addons/extensions I need. without knowing the problems you are having, it is tough to say if the issues are fixable or something that you will have to live with if you continue to using the edge.

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Everyone agrees with me.
by rjd1983 / April 1, 2017 5:57 PM PDT

Everyone has basically just regurgitated everything I said in my post...

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actually
by renegade600 / April 1, 2017 6:15 PM PDT

it is you that agreed with most here since most postings was before yours. mine was after yours but did not feel like reading your novel until now. besides, your post was a rehash of the links you posted Happy

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Wrong person
by rjd1983 / April 1, 2017 6:26 PM PDT
In reply to: actually

I was not the person who wrote the novel with all the links. Happy

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@Novel was okay actually..!
by Getriebe / April 17, 2017 6:49 AM PDT
In reply to: Wrong person

See @rjd1983, that is what you get for attempting to draw unnecessary attention to yourself: you got pegged by @renegade600....., and boo to you @renegade600 for pegging the "Wrong person".... Lol, just joking guys, so please don't take offence. Happy
What I actually wanted to say is that though the "Novel" by @ajtrek may not be everyone's cup of tea, I do quite appreciate the style. Also It clearly must have taken some thought, time and effort to put it all together and present it in a clear and orderly manner.
Well done @ajtrek...! Grin

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Google Chrome
by repierce / April 1, 2017 6:38 PM PDT

I have had many problems with Microsoft Edge. I start using Google Chrome and it works great.
Jazziz Mischief

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Google Chrome vs. Edge
by rpbert4 / April 15, 2017 9:11 AM PDT
In reply to: Google Chrome

Last few days Edge could not open Netflix. So I tried Chrome and it worked instantly. I have now made it my default browser.

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Everyone here is right
by 4Denise / April 1, 2017 7:57 PM PDT

Browsers are a personal choice. The only way to know which one you prefer is to try them. You can download and run as many browsers as you like on your machine. In fact, most people have multiple browsers these days. If one doesn't work well for a particular purpose, there is always another right there.

Each person is different and every person works differently. Download them, check them out, and experiment with the ones that look promising to you. Find out what options and extensions are available and see if you find a feature or two that tips the balance for you. When you make a decision, uninstall all but 2 or 3 of the browsers and you are set.

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My experience
by 1dat / April 1, 2017 8:54 PM PDT

I’ve been using Edge since I upgraded to Win 10. I’ve also been using Firefox for many years.

One advantage I see with edge is the resource usage. Firefox (FF) uses about 570M, whereas Edge uses 32M. From what I’ve been reading, Chrome is a real resource hog.

The majority of my browsing is with Edge. Some sites aren’t set for it (or IE), so I use Firefox for them.

Since you didn’t give any details, I don’t know what type problems you may have had. The only ones I have are:
1) The loss of certain key functions, such as Cont+R for refresh and F11 for full screen.
2) I have form data set to automatic storage. However, individual entries cannot be deleted as they are with IE and FF. It’s a keep or delete all situation.

If you provide us with more detail on the type of problems you’re having, we could offer better advice.

For now I would suggest you re-install Edge and get an alternate browser of your choice. If you still have serious problems, then set IE or another browser as default. (See my comment below.) Check your updates to see if any are for Edge. If so, try it again to see if it still causes the problems.

Remember, though, some problems are due to site design, not the browser. That’s why an alternate browser is always handy.

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Firefox memory usage
by James Denison / April 1, 2017 9:03 PM PDT
In reply to: My experience

I took a memory reading with Firefox closed, then opened Firefox and took another.

$ inxi
CPU~Single core AMD Sempron 140 (-UP-) clocked at 2712.561 Mhz Kernel~3.13.0-37-generic i686 Up~24 days Mem~590.0/3907.1MB HDD~120.0GB(23.8% used) Procs~159 Client~Shell inxi~1.8.4

opened firefox

$ inxi
CPU~Single core AMD Sempron 140 (-UP-) clocked at 2712.561 Mhz Kernel~3.13.0-37-generic i686 Up~24 days Mem~802.1/3907.1MB HDD~120.0GB(23.8% used) Procs~161 Client~Shell inxi~1.8.4


As you can see, the Firefox added only 212 MB to RAM usage.

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Task Manager
by 1dat / April 1, 2017 9:55 PM PDT
In reply to: Firefox memory usage

I had both Edge and FF open and checked the Task Manager .
Memory usage for FF was still over 400M vs. Edge below 35M.
CPU usage was about 2.5% for FF vs. Edge of 0.2%.

Even at your 212M, that's a lot more than Edge.

Some of the difference may be due to the type of computer (desktop, laptop, notebook, etc.) and the amount of installed RAM. On my 2-in-1 notebook, Edge used 15.5M. The notebook has only 2G RAM, so Edge adjusted for that.

I used this as an occasion to install FF on my notebook. Task Manager showed it used over 100M RAM. CPU usage was about the same for both browsers.

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