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Is IE 7 faster & really more secure than IE 6?

Dec 5, 2006 3:46PM PST

I'm still holding back using IE 7. Have been reading mixed reviews about it. The program interface and new features seem to be worthwhile switching to. My main concerns are security, with regards to viruses and stuff, web page downloading speed. Appreciate opinions and feedback.

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Faster = You test.
Dec 5, 2006 6:00PM PST

Since no one has the same PC that can't be answered for your machine.

As to security, it's better than compared to "stock" IE 6. But given it's the prime target for exploit (all versions) then security is a forgone conclusion.

Don't use it unless you can recover and kick the spyware out (again and again.)

Bob

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IE7?
Dec 14, 2006 10:39PM PST

Although I don't know much about this subject, you might be interested in my recent experience. About a month ago after I downloaded IE7, it would not work on this computer. ( I normally use Mozilla Firefox, but occasionally must use IE5.5 or better to work on the community web site.) My wife's laptop, which still uses IE6 and a dial-up connection could access the community web site. Finally I called AT&T tech support to see why IE7 would not work with my DSL connection. They suggested I uninstall IE7, which I did; they had me check and uncheck a few boxes in IE6, and now everything is fine. That is what happened. That is all I know.
Oldchris

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Faster = Not dependable on machine.
Dec 17, 2006 9:22AM PST

No one needs to have the same PC to evaluate if IE 7 is faster than IE 6: is IE 7 is faster than IE 6 on a specific machine, in normal circumstances (no virus, spyware, etc.) IE 7 will be faster than IE 6 in every machine.

In security it's better compared to IE 6 and, actually, to any other browser (Symantec and Secunia proved it). The fact that it's vastly more used than any other web browser does make it be the prime target for exploit but that in no way makes security a forgone conclusion.

The only spyware I get browsing with IE 7 is a couple of tracking cookies a day that I would much probably get with any other web browser too anyway, so I would recommend you to better educate yourself regarding IE 7 before commenting on it and advicing people against using it.

Fil

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Re: IE7 vs IE6
Dec 5, 2006 6:05PM PST

IE7 uses the same 'rendering engine' (to translate the html-text to what you see on your screen) as IE6, so I don't expect measurable speed difference there.

Kees

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Trident was overhauled, though...
Dec 6, 2006 12:13AM PST

Trident, the IE rendering engine, received a fairly dramatic overhaul in IE7 in order to increase overall performance and support for various web standards, as well as resolve a few potential security issues. Thus, while it has the same basic foundation as IE6 there is certainly a different twist to it. In my usage of it IE7 has appeared slightly faster than IE6, but was still outperformed by Firefox and Opera. The big concern right now is the list of bug reports which has yet to be addressed...you can try it and see how it works for you, but be prepared to revert back to IE6.

John

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IE 7 Problems?
Dec 7, 2006 8:47PM PST

I downloaded IE 7 two weeks ago. I have had no problems with it and havent received and viruses or spyware or any other unwanted critters. Mabey I am lucky and blessed. You all are scaring me about the bad talk of IE 7

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It doesn't affect everyone...
Dec 8, 2006 12:26AM PST

Some of the problems include:
* Scroll bar jerking up and down instead of scrolling smoothly. Most commen with those that have Logitech mouse software installed.
* Inability to reset their homepage. Most likely a conflict with security software that locks IE settings.
* The 'setup' page that asks you to customize IE7 displays every time IE is launched instead of just the first time. This is a result of it failing to write to the registry properly.
* A corrupt installation makes it difficult to uninstall IE7 and revert back to IE6 if necessary.
* Software incompatibility, with McAfee and Cisco recently topping the list of various glitches or lack of support.

These problems do not affect everyone, but enough people have reported problems that we now urge caution when upgrading and note that they might face problems. Other companies are working out problems between their software and IE7 but so far Microsoft has not addressed the problems (to my knowledge). If you have not experienced any of the problems, great! Just be aware that they exist so that if you or friends start having problems you know where to start looking.

John

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RE: It doesn't affect everyone
Dec 9, 2006 10:19PM PST

Hi. Since my post, I have downloaded IE 7. Thought I'd just do it. I actually find it quite cool. Like the new features eg. shrink to page printing, zoom button at bottom right that still maintain picture resolution, quick search engine and tabbed browsing. And I found it to be a bit faster than IE 6. You highlighted some problems people encountered. As a matter of fact, I also experienced the jerky scroll bar thing and I'm using an Acer mouse. Other than that, everything's ok. Overall, I think it's worthwhile and would recommend those who are still using IE 6 to upgrade.

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iE 7 New Internet Explorer
Dec 15, 2006 10:29AM PST

just down loaded the new IE7 and I think its a piece of junk it won't let u in to about any thing with out redoing your whole computer first. so I can't see where it is any beter then Number 6 a lot more trouble. Maybe when they get all the bugs out of it and it comes with a IE7 for dummies it will work. thank you for letting me ramble
Phil

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seems ok !
Dec 15, 2006 7:01AM PST

ha ha yes I am a bit scared to .All the things said about it as i have been running it for about a month and no dramas up till now ,except some of the web pages i access have not updated their page to accept IE7 so i can't go there.....till they catch up.

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Is IE 7 faster
Dec 14, 2006 7:10PM PST

It is really fast opening windows telling me that for some reason I can't view the pages I want to see.

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Is IE 7 faster
Dec 17, 2006 12:13AM PST

I cannot understand why people are so quick to blame Microsoft so fast. I repair PC's for a living, and have installed IE 7 on about 90 different computers with out any problems what so ever. I think that some of the problems people have is that they don't know what they are doing.

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It's more than just that...
Dec 17, 2006 1:10AM PST

Consider the patch Microsoft just released for IE7 that fixes a problem with the built-in phishing filter. I wonder how many thousands of people had their computers freezing and/or crashing on them and either were blamed or blamed themselves for 'doing something wrong' before IE7 was determined to be faulty. There are still many more problems that have yet to be addressed, including software incompatibilities, some of which have been issues since beta 1. Perhaps I would start by pointing the finger elsewhere if Microsoft's buggy software wasn't the culprit in most cases.

John

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It's more than just that...
Dec 17, 2006 1:26AM PST

Thanx for pointing that out. If I had read your timely post, I wouldn't have responded with mine.

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IE Explorer 7
Dec 17, 2006 11:29AM PST

I just bought a new computer and had to do a Windows update which automatically installed internet explorer 7, it is driving me nuts if I try to open more than two explorer pages it crashes on me, went to the update page for explorer 7 to fix problem, alas no updates.. Very much considering going back to ie 6 as surfing the internet has become a nightmare

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E Explorer 7
Dec 18, 2006 1:47AM PST

A rollback to IE6 might just be in your best interest.

Your situation is interesting because although I'm no expert here, t I'd thought that system maintenance MIGHT be a factor in why so many of us is having problems with this conversion. Perhaps file structure, or storage capacity could somehow be an issue, but your system is brand new and most likely you don't have any structure/capacity issues.

I'm curious as to why you didn't hold out for VISTA that's supposed to be released next month, or so?

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Is IE Faster
Dec 17, 2006 1:23AM PST

Ignorance probably factors in most of the problems that we as humans have, so why should computers be any different for us? Computers are a strength for you. Good for you, but the rest of us still have to get by with the skills that we have (Or don't have).

I didn't get it that most of us were slamming IE7. The vast majority of the posts that I read indicated that many of us didn't like the results that we saw converting from IE6 to IE7, and just decided to rollback to IE6, or other. What's wrong with that? Sure, there were some that slammed IE7, but that is to be expected.

That so many of us "Dont' know what they are doing" does not change the fact that converting from IE6 to IE7 (FOR US) can be more trouble than it's worth and the best choice just might be to stay with IE6, or other.

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reply about explore 7
Dec 14, 2006 8:28PM PST

Sorry to say tried it and it completely messed up my PC, and according to a number of my friends they all feel the same
Pearl Holt

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Works OK, but slower
Dec 14, 2006 9:09PM PST

I upgraded to IE7 on both my XP machines, as recommended for security standards. According to Microsoft, IE7 has extra security.

I find IE7 quite a lot slower than IE6. However, as I use Firefox, it doesn't bother me.

Two or three sites don't work with Firefox, so IE7 comes in handy for them.

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Firefox does it all!
Dec 15, 2006 5:36AM PST

"Two or three sites don't work with Firefox, so IE7 comes in handy for them."
I downloaded & installed the "IE Tab" extension for Firefox, so the sites that don't like it are rendered in IE. You might want to try that; it eliminates the need to have any version of IE on my machine!

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Not entirely accurate...
Dec 15, 2006 6:10AM PST

IE Tab is a great extension, but it works by loading various components of Internet Explorer, including the rendering engine, inside the Firefox interface. Thus, if you remove Internet Explorer from your computer IE Tab will cease to function, preventing you from accessing IE-only websites.

John

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Firefox and IE Tab
Dec 15, 2006 6:19AM PST

I've just tested this...

Cool!

Firefox rocks!

Thanks for tip.

(If I understand correctly, you still need to have IE installed... It just loads IE within Firefox.)

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Firefox does it all!
Dec 17, 2006 1:10AM PST

Thanx, but where were you when I could have really used this piece of info? JK!

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IE 7 Not Worth The Time
Dec 14, 2006 9:20PM PST

My wife and I both installed IE7 on our machines and have both since removed it. I use the Internet 6+ hours a day and have been for years.

It is like the M.S. people took all of the familiar/best features of IE 6 and tossed them in the garbage and then gave us a bunch of features that nobody requested, except a bunch of programmers locked in a dark room together.

Perhaps I didn't look deep enough to find the familiar look of IE 6, but the layout of 7 is not conducive to the work flow pattern we have become accustomed to over the past years. Most software manufactures that I regularly use have adapted useful features that actually enhance work flow. It seems to me M.S. forces you to adapt to their way.

As far as security goes, do you trust M.S.? I mean really, as soon as they roll out a product it is hacked and then it becomes nothing more than a SLOW bundle of patches. My wife and I both use third party security software and have never had any security problems that we are aware of. So their "enhanced" security is not much of a selling point for us.

I would not recommend IE 7 unless your curiosity has gotten the best you as it did us.

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Not!
Dec 15, 2006 12:03AM PST

I downloaded, tried it for awhile and just didn't like it. I have 3rd party security and so far no problems there. Not a selling point for me either. I uninstalled and back to IE6.

My step-son downloaded IE7 and had nothing but problems from the very beginning: screen stalling, to blank screens, etc. He is now back to IE6 also.

There will have to be a lot of updates to IE7 before I try it again.

Beckster

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IE6
Dec 15, 2006 1:28AM PST

Greetings,

I seen your reply on C/Net and was wondering how to go about changing from IE7 to IE6. I too, as you, don't like it hardly at all. I'm just not quite sure how to get rid of 7 and return to 6.

I run XP Pro on my home computer (Dell XPS)

Thanks so much!

David.

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Uninstalling IE7
Dec 15, 2006 1:35AM PST

You can return to IE6 simply by uninstalling IE7 with the Add/Remove programs function in your control panel. Uninstalling IE7 automatically rolls back to IE6.

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IE7
Dec 16, 2006 2:15AM PST

I was happy to see your message. I had all kind of problems with IE7 and wanted to uninstall it without losing my saved favorites etc.Thanks for posting the simple resolution of uninstalling. IE7 caused me to get a missing dll file on this computor. and also I had problems with the other computor I have linked to this main one. I would not recommend it .

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is IE 7 faster & really more secure than IE 6?
Dec 15, 2006 12:51AM PST

I can't answer your question, but I would advise you to stay away from IE7 for now if you have a choice in the matter.

Although I do enjoy some of IE7's new features the conversion process from IE6 to IE7 was a harrowing experience that I hope that I never have to again repeat. Somehow during the conversion my Windows XP files were corrupted and I ended up having to wipe my hard drive clean and reinstall software for every program that I use (Including my system software and every one of it's utility programs). You have no idea of how much software it takes to get all of your programs back online and the difficulties in obtaining this software and working out the bugs when those newly installed programs don't work the way that they should.

My computer is back to about 99%, but I'm finding out that in some cases old websites that worked fine with IE6 are not yet completely compatible with IE7 and don't function the way that they did before the conversion. My opinion is that IE7 is worthwhile, but the conversion process really sucks. The feedback that I've received from my friends and from what I've read online makes me suggest to you to just wait until your next computer purchase rather than suffer through the conversion process. If you are comfortable with IE6 and don't have to make the conversion IE7 then don't

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is IE 7 faster & really more secure than IE 6?
Dec 15, 2006 7:25AM PST

I keep a tester computer for just such problems. It appears to me at least, that IE 7 is part of Vista and a push to get people to upgrade to Vista. The average users computer will not support Vista. Which then means users will have to upgrade machines, Software upgrades, and a continuous cycle. Most of the ISP's I deal with are not ready for it yet either.