Is homosexuality on the rise?

chemically. That property is already being exploited in cancer treatments. Fetal hormone development may also play a role. While I'm not prone to taking wikis as gospel, I'll off this one, again, just to ponder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation

I must think there's a lot of reluctance to take on real research in this area in an earnest endeavor to find the truth and report it. It would, of course, take generations of data gathering...and, supposing we find that genetics coupled with therapeutic drug treatments do result in an increase in the probability that a child will develop as a homosexual? What would we want to do about it? Would we still consider such an acceptable outcome? That's why I compared the possibility to how we treat global warming as possibly being influenced somewhat by man and ask if one is acceptable but the other not. I'd not be at all surprised to find that what we do does play a role in sexual orientation. It could be what we intake chemically or chemicals we produce during periods of strong emotion.

.....as an example of homosexuality as a choice, but in prison it's all about power. Very little prison sex is consensual, and curiously, the victims of prison rape are often regarded as gay by other inmates if they don't fight back hard enough, but the perpetrators of the rapes are not considered gay.

for long periods of time. I've often wondered about men at sea for years at a time a long time ago. I'm sure they wouldn't have talked about it when they got home.

Diana

sleazy movie produced about the subject. It wouldn't matter if there was any truth to it or not. People would believe it and pay money to it. Speculation is always a better seller than reality.

found to occur in experiments with confined animals an especially as population density increases. I believe it's been noted that in some animal species that one mounting another does so to establish dominance and not to pleasure itself sexually. As a side note, it does seem that historically very little is mentioned of lesbianism though it appears that gay men and women are fairly equal in number today. Regardless, a growing population of gay persons cannot be desirable if a species wants to continue growing but could be so if the species needed to level off. Since I've long felt it best to let mom nature have her way and not mess with her, I could wonder if she's at work here.

Use of the word "pharmakeo" in the bible indicates there were drugs, not unlike the ones used today, in those days. Most of it is under the terms "sorcery" and "witchcraft", all which used mind altering substances.

http://calltodiscernment.blogspot.com/2009/11/bible-and-pharmakeia.html

Besides that, many suffered lead poisoning from the water pipes they used, in fact the old word for lead was "plumb" from which we get the term "Plumbing". Not just that, but many were exposed to toxic metal substances in the crafts they did.

those drugs and sorcery rituals were in fact natural treatments and healing beverages and unguents passed from mother to daughter that threatened catholic "mental" domination of villagers, cause some were quite effective and lead people to trust de village "healer" instead of surrender themselves to the dark vision of PAPADO that told people to submit to god´s will and pray to be healed miraculously. If you are healed by some herbs and antique remedies why would you give money to church? why would you work hard to gain some money to give to the bishop trying to satisfy GOD and get a miraculous cure.

That being cleared, are you saying that no matter the poison, drug, toxic substance you get exposed to, the result is becoming homosexual??!!!!

It sounds like you may have been a victim of tainted text. There's plenty of such out there and many folk are relieved of their wisdom by getting seduced by it. They become separated from reality of fact when they embrace fiction and fantasy. Books are out there looking for buyers and the whole truth doesn't sell as well as the cherry picked and embellished does. You only know what you have experienced. Anything else comes from your trust of another person's account. Be careful in whom you place that trust.

ok, i´ll make this simple: spaniard, catholic school, history and religion books.... and if that doesn´t make you forget about tainted texts i´ll say: INQUISICIÓN

and you avoided my question: are you saying different drugs/toxic substances in different times in history causes same effect: homosexuality?!!!!

I didn't answer that question because it was not asked of me. It was asked of another member. As for your stated background, I'm not one to think that qualifies you as an expert on historical times in which you did not live.

"in which you did not live"??? really? wow.... so "salem witches" didn´t exist or.... inquisición... or crusades or .... being sentenced to dead for stating the earth rotated around the sun...????

Do you believe government should punish those who commit crimes or not? What if instead that govt laws are derived from religious influences? If you compare atheistic governments, such as communism, (bolsheviks, Maoist, Pol Pot, other murderous regimes) then you would if honest prefer a govt limited by the mercies and restrictions of abuse offered by a religious damper on government power. It's odd you would pick out anomalies and short periods of time related to any religion and then use that to try and slander all religion. Your approach is dishonest, and therefore bankrupt.

Christians is different and more gentle than their treatment in non-religious Russia?

Just a link or two.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/16/world/europe/chance-russia-gay-rights/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/russia-gay-rights/

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/1-in-5-in-putins-russia-now-say-they-want-all-gay-people-liquidated/#gs.mLX0aQg

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/06/russian-lgbt-activists-describe-victimisation-repression-and-hope

I don't know what you mean by "conservative Christians" as opposed to Christians in general. Perhaps you're thinking more in the line of legislative patterns followed by some people but I'm not going to sit here and say that our legislative system allows for ill treatment or cruelty of the type we hear that exists elsewhere.

to a 2013 thread?

Kees

I replied to a current comment.

The indenting shows that your post "bible" is an answer to momoeds post from 2015, while your "god gives them over to it" is a reply to Steven's original post from 2013. I don't think Steven needs your lecture from the Bible.

Kees

as a lecture. I didn't make a statement but asked in a questioning manner so any answer should be welcomed. I was looking at homosexuality as possibly having clinical causes brought about my man that had nature expressing opposition to our actions. Some would use the word "God" in place of "nature" and that's fine with me.

Should be brought about by and not my man.

I picked up the incoming comment from the Forums Real Time page and that doesn't show the beginning date of a thread at all. I clked on it and answered it, then looked to what he'd replied to and not noticed it was 2013 when I added my second one.

I find this current software to be less manageable than the previous software we were using, that Jive stuff. In fact, I like the PHP-BB type stuff better than this which is what I encounter on other forums such as for Linux discussions. Even in that though, not always immediately apparent an older thread was resurrected.

What to do however if someone does reply in an older thread? In past the post might be cut out and made into a new thread, maybe a link given back to the original, or it was simply deleted and the thread locked. Of course that would be moderators who needed to do that. Unless there's some new rule I'm not aware of that post into an old thread can't be answered.

just as a new software package is about to be released...replete with a new set of bugs.

I think you are too touchy on some issues, and homosexuality seems to be one of your favorite ones to get that way about.

And religion is one of yours...

What happens in YOUR world when 2 worlds/issues collide/conflict?

How do you explain this?

Matthew chapter 7

20 -" Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

We know the fruits.

Luke 6
"Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?"

the fruits of YOUR labor?

Which fruits do you like...do you have any in YOUR garden?

Grow them, then throw them away?

I'll bet the Senior Priest isn't the only person that railed on about homosexuality while being gay.....

What do you think, could you pull that scam off?

But it is the issue of how the Church relates to gay believers that has dominated the headlines in recent weeks. Pope Francis has personally fostered a climate of tolerance towards such believers, most recently embracing a gay friend who brought his partner along for a visit with the pontiff in the U.S.

"Gay believer"?

I'll bet you don't think there is any such animal....BUT you could be worshipping with many in your place of worship and no even be aware....

OH, THE HUMANITY!!!!!