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Question

Is Donald Trump a Russian spy?

Dec 10, 2016 2:02AM PST

Why else all those help from Rusland: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.dcd238da44cc

Or is he just a crypto-communist? No better disguise for a communist than being a billionaire. And why should a real capitalist billionaire be concerned about the wellbeing of American workers? That's kind of having opposite interests. Seems fishy, to say the least.

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Oh, boo-hoo, JP
Dec 21, 2016 6:53AM PST

I actually WAS for Trump from the very first debate when they gave him that 'gotcha' question of "who will sign a pledge agreeing to support the one nominated at the end" and he was the only one who didn't raise his hand........everyone else DID and THEY were the ones who ultimately were hesitant or wouldn't at all and broke that pledge. I liked what he was saying he wanted to do as his platform.

I waited to see if ANY of the rest of them had the cajones to actually hold similar stands and none did....Cruz came close but proved himself to be a sellout at the end and destroyed his political career over it and I don't see him being re-elected, and Rubio was a huge disappointment to many even though he did manage to squeak in a re-election to save the seat he vowed to give up. No one else on the stage even came close to being anything other than the "Custer's Last Stand" establishment that we didn't want in power and running things anymore.

I stayed silent because you wanted an answer so badly, but Trump WAS the ONLY candidate I took seriously and wanted....I got what I wanted for Christmas. Did you?

And my question was directed at someone other than you, but you just HAD to make yourself relevant again because YOUR vote didn't matter and as far as I'm concerned neither does your opinion on any of this.

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RE:I waited to see
Dec 21, 2016 9:59AM PST

People that support someone "from the beginning" don't "wait to see" anything, they are blind to everything else others can say to get their vote.

Claim all you want...your words have come back to bite you...

AND I also got everything I wanted for Christmas....

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Like the rest of the radical liberals
Dec 21, 2016 10:58AM PST

you have a hard time accepting truth when you hear it.....you keep proving yourself over and over, JP....you haven't got an open mind, it's been closed off for a long time and now you only live to argue and defend your losing positions. I know for a fact you didn't get EVERYTHING you wanted for Christmas because Trump IS our next president. I knew after that first debate who I wanted to win for the reasons I said....I waited to make that decision to see if anyone else would take the same positions, and when the debate was over and none had, I had my answer. It didn't take me any longer than that. If you don't like that answer, too bad.

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RE:you only live to argue
Dec 21, 2016 11:57AM PST

non-argumentative posts by YOU are few and far between.

And YOU got everything YOU wanted for Christmas, AND I didn't?

You don't know me as well as you think you do?

Merry Christmas?

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What? I went back to the OP?
Dec 21, 2016 10:10PM PST

I must be slipping!
Toni, I'm a Christian who gets his religion from the Bible.
Examples: Jer 10:23; John 17:16. Per these, where does Hilary fit in with the government I am part of? (Mt 6:9,10)

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"Next verse, same as the first." (Herman's Hermits.")
Dec 21, 2016 10:15PM PST

Why I didn't vote: John 17:16. Most of the campaigns served me as a source of humor.

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"They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world."
Dec 22, 2016 7:29AM PST

And yet there He was, in the world, and came to save the world.

Have you not read....?....Romans 13American Standard Version (ASV)

13 Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no power but of God; and the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Therefore he that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that withstand shall receive to themselves judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. And wouldest thou have no fear of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise from the same: 4 for [a]he is a minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for [c]he is a minister of God, an avenger for wrath to him that doeth evil. 5 Wherefore ye must needs be in subjection, not only because of the wrath, but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For for this cause ye pay tribute also; for they are ministers of God’s service, attending continually upon this very thing. 7 Render to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor."

In fact, by NOT voting, you are standing against what is written there. You have a God given duty to vote.

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"Sixth and lastly" ( Shakespeare),
Dec 21, 2016 10:25PM PST

Why I don't vote: John 17:16.
The top spot? That belongs to the only one whose right it is. Rev 4:11.

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(NT) Toni, did those verses explain my abstinence from voting?
Dec 22, 2016 4:37PM PST
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Actually
Dec 23, 2016 4:59AM PST

I was 'raised' Catholic, was disappointed in my later years and broke away, looked for another 'religion' that I could feel comfortable with and gave up because they all seemed pretty close to each other's attitudes of 'do as I say, not as I do' and FAR too liberal with dipping into other people's pockets to make their lives better and not real charitable work, and that included JW's that I've known personally and worked for at one point. Now I communicate with God myself, take the blame for screw-ups that happen in my life, and He gets all the credit for the good and great things that happen not only in my life but everywhere, such as the "Miracle on the Hudson" where I am firmly convinced that God Himself had both of His arms wrapped around that entire plane that took 206 minutes to coast to a stop ON, rather than IN, the Hudson and only 24 minutes to have those ferries rescue every single passenger and crew of 155.

When people begin posting scripture here in SE, my eyes go blank just as my ears go blank hearing it in person. Everyone has their own personal experiences and opinions and I have mine, and most times, I don't read those posts so your message was lost on me. I just personally can't understand how people feel they have a right to protest against leaders here without exercising the option to actually vote for the other since obviously one is more distasteful to you than the other. Some say that's only a choice of the 'lesser of the two evils' however, to me, that's just an excuse to NOT make a hard decision...voting here is a privilege and to NOT exercise that gift, that isn't available everywhere in this world, is a disappointment to me.

IF 'Christianity' really IS about 'tolerance' for people who think and believe differently than you do, then where is it when it comes to choosing our leaders? Don't new ones deserve the same 'give that person a chance to prove themselves before hating them so openly', just as we did with BO who had NO experience at the job either? IF they prove themselves to be a failure, as BO has, THEN be intolerant and get rid of them. I'm sorry....but I find disappointment again when I search for proof of people's convictions to their faith so I've opted out. Perhaps that's how you feel about politics.....but since I believe voting is a privilege as a citizen, I also believe everyone eligible to vote should....whereas religion is a choice you make, in my opinion.

I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas and be safe.

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Ok...my mistake
Dec 21, 2016 9:47AM PST

You have your own translation and not writing. I apologize for that misstep. Still, it would be your best understanding and not subject to change from studying it alone. Increased understanding would come from external sources. That was my challenge to your statement. I do think that too many people get so distracted by the minutiae that they no longer see the message.
Fortunately, my church doesn't rely on Trump or even the Bible alone and neither do I. We know that Jesus talked about building a church and not about writing a book. He didn't tell his disciples to go out and read from scripture and offer hand outs. Any scripture they'd use or refer to would be from the writings we now call "Old Testament". They were to preach and were promised to be guided by the "Holy Spirit" when they taught. This and the many volumes of words Jesus spoke to his disciples that were too many to be written are part of the oral tradition which is a part of what we call the "Deposit of Faith". The other part is that which were written, found, and confirmed as to their authorship...ie, New Testament. You'll reject the notion than only such that was available at the time of the Council of Nicaea (which probably made our current election process look like a game of patty-cake) was fit for public consumption. Now, as to my "having a problem", I don't. I have no problem with you're being who you are and practising your faith as you do. But, I'll repeat that a person is more likely to have an influence on others by how they treat and respect people rather than from mere words.

BTW. I agree with Toni. This has gotten way off track and should have been a thread all to it's own if anyone wanted to engage in it.

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they give the Koran a pass,
Dec 15, 2016 4:04PM PST

...but get upset over the NWT? Seems a bit backwards.

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As usual, the Bible prophesied this, well
Dec 15, 2016 6:51PM PST

in advance of need.

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the Bible said the Russians...
Dec 16, 2016 4:09AM PST

...would oppress JW's? Where?

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(NT) Would trade the truth for a lie.
Dec 16, 2016 6:24PM PST
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(NT) People would trade the truth of God for a lie.
Dec 16, 2016 6:27PM PST
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Answer
I'll wait
Dec 10, 2016 2:49AM PST

If this is a "secret" report, why should we believe that the whole world knows about it? As well, a secret report that's been leaked would fall squarely upon the current administration's shoulders to deal with.

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Re: Trump?...A spy?
Dec 11, 2016 6:08AM PST

I don't think so...given that he misses security briefings where HE could get "top secret information" without lifting a finger.

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He doesn't MISS them, he doesn't want to
Dec 11, 2016 8:34AM PST

hear the same information day after day....he's on Chris Wallace's show on at 2PM EST today explaining this. When they have NEW information to give to him, he's available to hear it; otherwise, he has other priorities to take care of before Jan 20.

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RE:he doesn't want to
Dec 11, 2016 11:35AM PST
he doesn't want to hear the same information day after day

How long do you think he would last making posts here?

Obviously he doesn't listen to himself. Numerous tweets all saying the same thing.

I think the intelligence community should be grateful WHEN they don't HAVE to meet with him. Can't he tweet while in the security briefings?

....At least he could put in an appearance....even if it's just for show.

Perhaps he's laying the groundwork for not getting paid for being POTUS...he's NOT going to be there most of the time.
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RE: He doesn't MISS them, he doesn't want to
Dec 11, 2016 1:16PM PST
He doesn't MISS them, he doesn't want to hear the same information day after day.

He's rather hear the same info from a different source, so they can compare notes/intelligence?

He would rather get his info from more reliable sources?

Kellyanne Conway: Trump Is Receiving Intelligence Info 'From A Number Of Sources'

Kellyanne Conway, former campaign manager to President-elect Donald Trump, refused to say Sunday if Trump is turning away daily intelligence briefings, claiming that he is receiving information “from a number of sources.”

Receiving intelligence/comparing intelligence? THAT is the question.

He Heard it through the Grapevine?...Remember that one, before your time?
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The problem with intelligence briefings is;
Dec 11, 2016 4:49PM PST

They don't always just come with the information, but also suggested moves, solutions, which might lend itself to an undue influence on a President's decisions. It can be used to define the "acceptable limits" in what the same intelligence community is trying to convince a President is appropriate actions. I would call that perhaps excessive influence.

It's like a judge being given facts of the case, and then given suggestions on rulings. Although that happens, unless it's requested, I think goes too far.

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The top people in his named cabinet
Dec 12, 2016 4:35AM PST

also receive the same intelligence briefings every day.....those are his 'sources'....if anything new is in there, they tell him.

Nobody has ever complained that BO and other presidents didn't get face-to-face briefings....most times they would be written ones, and many times, like Carter and Nixon, they wouldn't even bother to read them.

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RE:those are his 'sources'
Dec 12, 2016 1:29PM PST

if anything new is in there, they tell him.

They'll "decide" what he needs to know?

THEY are the brains behind the outfit?

OR maybe they won't have to decide what he needs to know...?

that's why he wants the other 5 members of TheRUMPsters sitting in on ALL meetings....

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So who do you think is reading
Dec 12, 2016 2:08PM PST

or getting the briefings for BO? It's well known HE doesn't pay any attention to having a face-to-face briefings and those he gets on his 'blackberry' he rarely reads according to HIS inside sources. Trump isn't even president and liberals are moaning about this like it's a huge deal when they didn't give a crap that BO and other presidents have done this repeatedly.

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RE:they didn't give a crap that BO and other presidents have
Dec 12, 2016 7:47PM PST
they didn't give a crap that BO and other presidents have done this repeatedly.

TheRUMP "gave a crap"...NOW that the shoe is on the other foot....AND you wanted change?

Trump Tweets Criticized President Obama for Missed Briefings

Old tweets that the President-elect sent criticizing President Obama have resurfaced amid claims that Trump has been skipping intelligence briefings.

On 12 December 2016, various web sites published items reporting that Donald Trump "forgot to delete" years-old tweets in which he criticized President Obama for reportedly not attending security briefings:

Priorities--while fundraising and campaigning on our dime, Obama has skipped over 50% of his intel briefings http://t.co/IhiIaKPa

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 11, 2012



You backed TheRUMP because you wanted change?
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Surprisingly enough
Dec 13, 2016 2:54AM PST

Liberals are complaining that Trump represents too MUCH change, and yet you complain when there are a few things that he does the same way or similar to BO. YOU backed hilLIARy because she represented NO change....just EXPANSION of BO's policies to the detriment of the rest of our society. Will you EVER be happy? I doubt it.