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Is anyone planning to vote FOR Kerry?

by Evie / March 12, 2004 4:05 AM PST

Curious about this, genuinely. I don't want to hear about party or how awful Bush is. I am curious what characteristics Kerry possesses that would lead you to vote for him to become the next President of the United States.

Evie Happy

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Re:Is anyone planning to vote FOR Kerry?
by Josh K / March 12, 2004 4:18 AM PST

I guess my vote is part FOR Kerry and part "not Bush," but as best as I can put it, I think Kerry's positions on the major issues of the day come closer to my own than Bush's do. I think Kerry is hoping to adapt a more inclusive foreign policy while still fighting the war on terror. From what I've seen on his website and heard elsewhere, he has solid ideas for the improvement of Homeland Security. He also has proposals for turning the economy around that make sense to me.

I hope that answers your question sufficiently.

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Re:Re:Is anyone planning to vote FOR Kerry?
by Mark G / March 12, 2004 8:22 AM PST

im voteing for Snoopy

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Re:Is anyone planning to vote FOR Kerry?
by Angeline Booher / March 12, 2004 7:17 AM PST

Though some folks would vote for the party regardless, some for the candidate, some against either or both, there are some who have not made up their minds.

It is 7 months before election day, and Kerry has not yet picked his running mate. And the running made should be considered as the VP is a heartbeat away from being President. Of course, we know that VP Cheney is the President's choice, though, at least around these parts, he is not that popular.

With all of the millions that will be spent during the campaign, some minds might be changed. It's starting out as good give and take, and I sure hope that there is no "dirt" dug up on either of them.

In my neck of the woods the state of the economy will be VERY important. Just a week or so ago another long-time factory closed and moved to Texas, which didn't set too well. Happy The clouds surrounding the former Republican governor thicken, and could cause angst for the state organization.

When Kerry makes his VP choice, I'll look at him. A lot can happen in 7 months. They are both nice men with nice families. By election day I will have decided which slate best suits my moderate views.

Angeline
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by crowsfoot / March 12, 2004 3:12 PM PST

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Do I detect some desparation here? I can say with some certainty that the multiple ABB's will do nothing to help elect Kerry, just leave us gobsmacked why you did it?? NT

NT

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And I guess we all know how painful THAT can be.

Even if I wasn't exactly voting FOR Kerry, it'd still crucial to get Bush and the boys out of there. Man, the debt is going absolutely Ronnie Reagan on us! They are burning down the barn! You know, I'd have a little more respect for Republicans if they'd actually CUT SOMETHING. (other than rich peoples taxes) David Stockman was right. They ARE trying to choke Social Security and Medicare to death with the humongas national debt. And who gets the interest payments on it that are killing SS? The rich people who "invested" in it. Is there some logical reason why the SS surplus should only get 1% interest from the general fund while Ross Perot's T-bills pay him substantially more. Same reason a dog licks his balls, I guess.

Let's not go down this road. CUT SOMETHING! Name it. I bet'cha we'll be with you.

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Re: How painful THAT can be.
by Dave Konkel [Moderator] / March 13, 2004 12:53 AM PST

Hi, Bob.

And while drastically increasing the amount of money thrown down the rathole called the "Strategic Defense Initiative," which is absolutely useless in the war on terrorism, they want to cut Section 8 Housing vouchers for low and middle income Americans by a third.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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The opinions expressed above are my own,
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Two separate specific issues we can talk the merits of. Too bad they'll be drowned out by bumper-sticker, sound-bite, knee-jerk sloganeering. The very words we use to discuss these things have been poisoned.
by crowsfoot / March 13, 2004 4:05 AM PST

There's no doubt in MY mind that the cost of existing section 8 housing is at least 1/3 waste, fraud, abuse and/or laziness. (Part of this problem comes from having a party in charge, half the time, that is philosophicaly opposed to the whole concept.) On the other hand, I'm just as sure that there is legitimate need for at least twice as much as is currently available. A bit more teaching to fish, maybe?

"I think SDI is a giant boondoggle which will almost certainly never work cooked up by Republicans to enrich defense contractors. Who will funnel campaign contributions to the GOP. Which will come up with huge spending programs for defense contractors. And the cycle will continue until the only people in the country with any money left are defense contractors and GOP congressmen, which is clearly what the Founding Fathers intended. Other than that, I have no problem with it." (nothing more on subject at the link. just to give credit.)

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Right, let's cut defense so that we can subsidize some housing.
by Kiddpeat / March 13, 2004 8:49 AM PST

Get a grip Dave! Someday N. Korea or Iran may lob a nuc at us. If they do, we'll all hope that SDI is far enough along to stop it. Are you one of those dinosaurs who think a missile can't be hit, or who think that we shouldn't defend ourselves? Section 8 housing won't be much good if it's vaporized.

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Hopefully a slight exaggeration

Not that you might vote for Kerry instead of Bush, but that you'd literally vote for anyone but Bush.

I realize that some people think Bush is the devil incarnate. Personally I don't think he's either devil or saint.

But an attitude of anyone is better, even someone worse as one poster here claimed, is rather unreasonable.

If you feel the other choice is better that's fine.

All that said, I admit often I feel like I'm voting for the candidate I dislike less rather than one I choose as better.

RogerNC

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Sadly, no. (Hyperbole? Me?)
by crowsfoot / March 13, 2004 3:09 AM PST

So you noticed the subtlety I used to avoid Evie's guide lines for this discussion. I don't want to hear about party or how awful Bush is. I am curious what characteristics Kerry possesses that would lead you to vote for him to become the next President of the United States. Kerry's credentials and appeal, rightly is a separate issue from Bush's flaws. It's just that the hypocrisy and bald-faced cynicism shown by the so called "small government" party, gobsmacke's the mind!

I'm continuously appalled by all the political pay-offs and cow-towing Republicans give to their simple-minded, single-issue, bloc-voting contributors. It's fundamental to the Christian Right, for instance, that the UN is THE "World Government" prophesied in Revelations, and therefor the work of the Devil and to be avoided at all costs. At the least, all appearances of cooperation with the UN.

More and more. On and on and on... Amen.

It's astonishing to me that so many can so easily be turned away from their own best self-interest, and that of the nation, the next generation and the world by pure verbage!

Real Republicans are open to discussion item by item, and true to their belief in limited government. These NeoCon's will "sounds-like-fuzzy-math-to-me" all honest debate to death. CUT SOMETHING! NAME IT! COME OUT INTO THE LIGHT! The cynicism of choking government programs by running up the debt instead of talking about the merits of each, is sleazy cheating and lying. Pushing one class higher by taking the nation lower is unworthy of us. We can do better.

ABB! It's important. (and here's hoping Kerry isn't The Devil)

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It would be nice if those who post
by Kiddpeat / March 13, 2004 8:52 AM PST

actually knew what they are talking about.

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Do I know you from the old forum, Kiddpeat? nt
by crowsfoot / March 13, 2004 9:33 AM PST

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As opposed to AWOL from the Champagne Brigade?
by crowsfoot / March 13, 2004 4:19 AM PST

At least Kerry had the credentials to have had an opinion.

"Why change ****'s in the middle of a screw?
Reelect Nixon in '72!"

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As opposed to AWOL from the Champagne Brigade?
by crowsfoot / March 13, 2004 6:56 AM PST

At least Kerry had the credentials to have had an opinion.

"Why change ****'s in the middle of a screw?
Reelect Nixon in '72!"

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A little stutter on the keyboard? Nixon? Get serious! (NT)
by Kiddpeat / March 13, 2004 8:54 AM PST

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Re:As opposed to AWOL from the Champagne Brigade?
by Josh K / March 15, 2004 12:49 AM PST

LOL, I still have a button somewhere that says "**** Nixon before he dicks you!"

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Never thought you were ANOTHER BUSH BACKER Bob...

I guess you just don't like Senator "ForandAgainst" Kerry's fish out of water act either.

Congratulations!

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"Doh!" ~(_:(l)
by crowsfoot / March 13, 2004 9:09 AM PST

Trot out that yeller dawg and see if I don't vote for him over Bush.

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Re:Is anyone planning to vote FOR Kerry?
by Mary Kay / March 12, 2004 9:01 PM PST

Regardless of what you say your intentions are, This smacks of baiting to me. I apologize if I'm wrong Evie ... butttt.

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You think? Really?? -nt
by Dan McC / March 15, 2004 12:45 AM PST

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