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Iran eyes badges for JewsLaw would require non-Muslim insign

May 18, 2006 11:41PM PDT

Friday, May 19, 2006

Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims.

"This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis."

Iranian expatriates living in Canada yesterday confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament, called the Islamic Majlis, passed a law this week setting a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear almost identical "standard Islamic garments."

The law, which must still be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims.

Iran's roughly 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes, while Christians would wear red badges and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth.

"There's no reason to believe they won't pass this," said Rabbi Hier. "It will certainly pass unless there's some sort of international outcry over this."


well its seems these iraining leaders want to redo ww2
seems they need to learn something

http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=11fbf4a8-282a-4d18-954f-546709b1240f&k=32073

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Holocaust? What Holocaust?
May 19, 2006 12:05AM PDT

Didn't the Iranian President claim it never happened?

So I wonder where he got this idea from then.

I also wonder -- how many Jews are there living in Iran? How many would want to live in a country where they're so hated even without badges?

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Not many...
May 19, 2006 1:32AM PDT
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its time for them to leave
May 19, 2006 3:08AM PDT

and then pave all of iran.
or should we rely on the great UN to talk us to death?

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I've said all along....
May 19, 2006 3:55AM PDT

....that Iran was and remains a much bigger problem than Iraq ever was.

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(NT) (NT) How can you ignore Saddam's emulation of Hitler?
May 19, 2006 3:59AM PDT
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Not ignoring anything, Evie
May 19, 2006 4:47AM PDT

Saddam was in no shape to carry out any of his threats, as both Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice acknowledged in 2001.

As for Iran, I would again oppose invading the country. It would only make things worse. Once you invade a country, you're responsible for that country's people and stability, possibly for a very long time as we're seeing now in Iraq.

There are other ways to deal with any threats from Iran that would not require us to occupy the country.

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(NT) (NT) Like what?
May 19, 2006 4:49AM PDT
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if we didnt care about inocents
May 19, 2006 5:00AM PDT

we could do all of it from the air

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If we didn't care about innocents....
May 19, 2006 6:03AM PDT

...we'd be almost as bad as they are.

We can still do it from the air if it comes to that. They're building nukes? If we know where they're building them, then we can deal with it if we have to. But military action of any kind has to be in response to a real and verifiable threat, not just a lot of big talk from the President of Iran.

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(NT) (NT) So you don't believe Iran is building a Nuke?
May 19, 2006 6:09AM PDT
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I believe they want to
May 19, 2006 7:13AM PDT

But we have to have a lot more than ''Are you kidding? Of course that's what they're up to'' for evidence before acting.

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You've GOT to be kidding!
May 19, 2006 8:07AM PDT

These maniacs are TELLING us what they intend to do. WHEN they get the means to do so, they will. Iran is playing "hide and seek" a la Iraq, so, unfortunately there's only so much certainty we can have of any estimate of their capability.

Did you support the bombing of the Serbs? After all, Milosevic had no intentions of expansion, nor had he made public expressions re: genocide. All we had were a few reports of some mass graves, and bombs away!!! Those mass graves we were told about (countless in the Trepka mine, for example) were never found.

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josh hes got unraniam
May 19, 2006 6:56AM PDT

and you dont think hes not gonna use it?


and as to doing it from the air
you would be the 1st one screaming bloody murder over the death of inocents.
and beleave me i bet iseral has a very good idea where.

and us being as bad as them bs josh we could have wiped japan off the globe we used restraint

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(NT) (NT) I think it's iraniam
May 19, 2006 7:25AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) about as funny as a pay toilet in a diarrhea ward
May 19, 2006 7:52AM PDT
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Saddam was doing plenty in 2001
May 19, 2006 5:09AM PDT

and capable of plenty more. Even Kerry wanted to go after him right after 9/11. You tend to ignore the plethora of information that already exists and the additional information still coming out.

Saddam's greatest threat was not what he would ever do "officially" -- although he did that daily shooting at our planes in the NFZ's -- it was always the threat of him giving the material to terrorists to do his bidding. If Bill Clinton were still in office I have no doubt you would see that.

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daily shooting at our planes in the NFZ's
May 19, 2006 5:27AM PDT

Did he ever hit any of them?

I think the firings usually resulted in the destruction of the ground radar base.

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That is irrelevant!
May 19, 2006 5:33AM PDT

The NFZ's were one of MANY stipulations in the cease fire agreement that Saddam routinely violated. If this ever happens again, the US should just forget trying to pandering to appeaseniks and enforce the ceasefire no questions asked.

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Not going to play games with you.
May 19, 2006 11:08AM PDT

TERMS OF CEASEFIRE.

The one who ceases firing does so by setting the terms to which the loser agrees. Too bad Bush 41 didn't rain all hellfire on Saddam in late 92 when he was already thumbing his nose at everyone.

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What you are saying is exactly what is wrong....
May 19, 2006 6:08AM PDT

....with the liberal way of thinking. Just because they were not able to hit one of our planes, that makes it OK? Then we should let Iran build the "bomb" as long as they haven't used it on another country? We should let 500+ kassams fired (since evacuation) from Gaza land in Israel just because it has not done real damage yet?
Then your ilk would be the first to complain, if something serious happens, as to why we did not prevent it.
You can't have it both ways. If you are serious about security, you have to do everything possible to prevent a real catastrophe.
Who was it that said "the best defense is a strong offense"?

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only because the american pilots are superior
May 19, 2006 6:57AM PDT

and people like you just feed his kind
remember jp nasa heres and sees all your tripe

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Yes, it is irrelevant
May 19, 2006 8:42AM PDT

and a minor point, but rarely did they get a shot..especially not daily at our aircraft in the NFZ. What may have been close to daily is their turning on their radar to arm missles, but F4-Phantoms of the old Vietnam era, would then lock on to the radar and fire a air to surface anti-radiation AGM-88 HARM missle (cost $284,000 ea). It became so that when they were ordered to turn on the radar, they fled out of the bunker knowing what would happen.

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Nit pick if you will
May 19, 2006 11:18AM PDT

Saddam's attempted actions against coalition forces patrolling the NFZ are well document and ALL in violation of the cease fire agreement from Gulf War I.

Bush 41's biggest mistake was not taking out Saddam when he was violating already in '92. Bush 43's biggest was listening to those that told him to go through the UN -- an exercise in futility if ever there was one.

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As a matter of fact...
May 19, 2006 4:56AM PDT

the Baath Party in Syria and Iraq was pretty much set up by the Nazis in WW II.

Anyone who thinks Iraq was no threat is just fooling himself. The whole "Iran is the bigger threat" ignores many facts including the fact that Saddam was in violation of the terms of the first Gulf War. The invasion was long overdue and more than justified.

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well josh all those peace loveing arab countrys
May 19, 2006 4:08AM PDT

would been gone if we left iseral alone

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What about the
May 19, 2006 4:53AM PDT

peace loving Americans that want to make Iran a parking lot?

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thats the perfect answer how
May 19, 2006 5:02AM PDT

about jp instaed of you snide remarks try to tell us what you would do?

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What to do
May 19, 2006 5:08AM PDT

For starters

Don't give weapons to the enemies of Iran (Pakistan, India).

Since US gives weapons to them, of course Iran is going to want to arm themselves, wouldn't the US do the same thing, if Rusia started to move arms into Cuba?

And, I know the US has enough weaponsa but it would raise the tensions.

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US is not the only arms supplier.
May 19, 2006 6:12AM PDT

It is very naive to think that if we don't sell arms to Pakistan, India, etc. that other countries (China, Russia) won't fill the void.