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Internet withdrawal

Jan 30, 2010 1:20AM PST

I'm amazed at how much I'm dreading the construction work at our house. We discovered that when the basement was finished by a previous owner the paneling went up over cinderblock with NO INSULATION. That might explain why it's always so cold.

Anyway, we're ripping out the paneling and putting in an insulated sheetrock wall . The catch? Well, there's several. The Internet and the cable TV access both come in through one of the rooms that is being gutted. Thankfully I don't think it will affect the phone.

We don't get any broadcast TV so we'll be going through digital withdrawal for a while unless the contractor can figure out how to jury rig something during the renovation.

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that's easy
Jan 30, 2010 2:16AM PST

coax to the TV from the outside, maybe through a window, till the rebuild is finished. Don't use spray foam insulation unless you want your home to turn into a FEMA toxic trailer. Use fiberglass matting instead under that sheetrock.

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Maybe ...
Jan 30, 2010 3:29AM PST

I don't have access outside the house, but I am thinking about having the contractor put a small hole into the living room floor just large enough to fish the cable alongside the fireplace upstairs.

My wife would lose her Cat 5 connection in the upstairs den but she would still be able to use WiFi on the other end of the house.

Personally I think we can live without TV for the duration of the project.

As I noted in the other post I think we are using styrofoam that will fit between the furring strips instead of putting in regular studs with fiberglass insulation.

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all you need is the coax
Jan 30, 2010 3:51AM PST

You can do internet through FIOS with coax or the CAT5 connection, but Verizon will need to turn the coax part on if currently using CAT5 connection instead. Just get one coax coming in a hole, split and send one cable to the modem, one to a wall plug. Might need a split at the wall plug if there's a TV already on it and you have coax to other TV's in house. On the other split where the modem is, you can run a patch piece of CAT5 between one of it's ports to any CAT5 plug on the wall and all computers using such plugs in rooms will then have access through that one modem port without problem.

In short, split coax to modem and TV wall plug. One ethernet cable from a modem port to a wall port. You are ready to go. At my house to simply I just have it coax through out, both TV and Internet.

Verizon FIOS has two or 3 boxes on the house, inside or out. One opens to reveal the ports you can use. You can string a 50' (or longer cable if needed) through a window at one corner, then lock the window down. Most windows have enough leeway to allow that.

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How do you get your internet?
Jan 30, 2010 2:53AM PST

Is it cable? Or DSL?

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Fiberoptic cable
Jan 30, 2010 3:20AM PST

The phone company sends everything to the house via fiber, and there's a box on the outside wall that splits the various signals. Coax for cable and some sort of twisted pair for Internet enter through the wall at the box but the phone stuff runs outside to the same place it has always come in. I was surprised they put in fiber out here in the sticks, but the telephone co-op is trying to stay on top of the new technology.

I don't know how to access the cable and Internet ports from outside.

I'm hoping we can work out something with the contractor so there is minimal disruption of the Internet but I don't care that much about the TV signal except to the extent that it keeps the wife happy. She watches way more than I do.

If we can't figure out anything else I'll use my wife's laptop's air card to get wireless Internet and then share that connection. We don't download much so I don't think the data requirements will be huge. However, it won't be as fast as the fiber data connection I'm used to.

I've always thought it was peculiar that we get OK reception with her wireless Internet even though we don't have a usable signal for cell service. The frequencies aren't the same, but I'm pretty sure they use the same towers for both.

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You can buy wireless network adapters...
Jan 30, 2010 3:36AM PST

for regular PCs. I'm thinking of doing that one day. Already using a wireless printer for all computers.

I don't think FIOS will ever make it into our bit of the sticks.

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polystyrene is a great insulator
Jan 30, 2010 3:15AM PST

friends in Sweden built their house on a layer of 2 foot blocks inside a concrete framework, no permafrost in their bedroom Happy

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I think that's what they are using ...
Jan 30, 2010 3:24AM PST

The contractor said it looks like styrofoam. I think it's 3/4" solid sheets that will fit between the furring strips that are already in place.

My understanding is that it is not quite as good as high quality fiberglass but it will be MUCH less expensive since it won't require reframing everything.

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From living in old houses..... & home runs
Jan 30, 2010 4:48AM PST

....... we faced far-from-normal installation more than once.

At the log house we had 2 computers and 5 TVs on cable. The smart solution was to run a separate line -"home runs"- from the outside box for each. In a couple of instances that meant running a cable on the outside of the building due to lack of access. it was nearly done, so not an eyesore.

At this house I have the 1 computer and 3 TVs. My son has 1 computer and 5TVs---- all are home rums. He has an ampler on his. The cable company replaced the main cable on the street because the old one could not adequately serve the great increase in demand.

Though this house was pre-wired in a couple of rooms, , they just basically started over.

There is some hesitation in using splicers to serve 2 or more units as it can impact on signal quality.

Good luck!

Angeline

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A reprieve for a couple of days ...
Jan 31, 2010 9:56AM PST

The weather has been so bad that the contractor doesn't want to take his trucks out on the road. The means we have a couple more days to pack up everything in the rooms.

He THINKS he can keep the Internet up most of the time. We'll see.

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We had a storm
Jan 31, 2010 5:45PM PST

about a year ago that knocked out our power for several weeks. Had to cook on the BBQ grill, even boil water for coffee on it. After a few days we began to feel like pioneers. We're more grateful for what we have now because of that storm.