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Intel Extreme Edition 840

Apr 15, 2005 2:44PM PDT

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Yep, shipping Monday
Apr 16, 2005 12:26AM PDT

@$1000 in quantity.

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Intel 840
Apr 16, 2005 5:16AM PDT
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Yea, John. It'll drop
Apr 16, 2005 5:23AM PDT

as soon as AMD releases their's. I don't know if you've noticed, but there haven't been much of a downward movement of CPU prices for some time now.

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ahem...
Apr 16, 2005 6:03AM PDT

aside the fact that i knew about this 2 weeks ago (guess i forgot to post here, posted at another forum...and i've been suggesting it for the last week for people who want the latest and greatest...)


BUT ANYWAYS
on Thursday AMD and HP in co-operation announced dual core Opteron 875's shipping in HP's blade servers...and they start shipping iirc next week...


so AMD is right up there with Intel
a note on the 840
the FX-55 is still faster...just accept it, and I can prove this

if your gaming, the FX-55 is still what you want
not the 840

the 840 takes more power/cooling than the FX-55
and it is slower

dual core didn't give the performance oomph that the industry thought it would

the 840 in benchmarks that are highly intensive, even gets kicked in by the 570J and 660 chips
the 3800+ and 4000+ are faster than those two, and the FX-53 and 55 are yet still faster...


the only thing the 840 is really good at, is encoding (it just eats it up)

currently I would avoid dual core, as Intel and AMD are just putting it out, it's been in research for around a year, so there aren't going to be software issues with it, but the biggest thing is that both companies are using single core designed cores, and putting two together

Intel is putting 2 Prescott's on the 840, and it becomes the Smithfield core (there is a bit more than that invovled, but if you see the architecture diagrams, it's the same core 2x over, while dual core should be more features combined...simmilar to SLI for gfx)

as for AMD, their basically doing the same thing, IDK what core their using (Venice, Winchester, x-Hammer or Newcastle, idk what their using, but i'm going to guess x-Hammer...or San Diego (which is supposedly their dual core)


if you want dual core
wait until Q3 at the earliest, but i'd suggest Q4 or even as late as H1 2k6 (and buy it with Windows Longhorn...)


Intel's final dual core execution of the Pentium D is the Presler (at least that they've spoken of) and it's dual 65nm, and it's supposed to be a monster

Yonah is coming in summer, it's their new mobile solution, and it's FAST (a noticeble boost compared to the 840...)


dual core is only being released on their super-high end enthusiast chips atm (both AMD and Intel, and since AMD's enthusiast chips are their server chips sans 1 pin (it's more than just taking a pin off) their server chips also get dual core sooner (Intel is doing dual core Xeon and Itanium platforms though)

but it's not practical for desktop use
for the $1000 of the 840, plus the 955 equipped motherboard

I could buy a dual Xeon board and a pair of 2.8 or 3.2 Xeon's and save money

but when Dual Core hits mid-range, it'll be great

also
the 840 is using 2 3.2GHZ cpu's, and not beating a single 3.8 at gaming...if that helps out

it has to have each at 4.0GHZ to even pass the 3.8 single, and it still would get whipped by the FX-55...

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I am so sorry that I didn't see your
Apr 16, 2005 6:17AM PDT

post. I realize what a terrible blow it must have been to your ego. I hope that, in the future, I can manage to not post in threads that you need to show your knowledge in.

Please accept my apology.

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I am so sorry that I posted
Apr 16, 2005 3:04PM PDT

an addition to your post. It must have come as a suprise to have more information added. I hope that, in the future, I can keep everybody in the dark, thus helping them more.

Please accept my apology.


ok, well, it censors the word dark...and for everyone out there, that is the word D A R K (ok, i can see from what angle it's censored, but i still don't get WHY it IS censored? Bob, wanna fill me in? also, please don't ban me for bypassing the filter (it seems like an error..unless it's censored for some reason i'm not seeing)

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They are having a lot of problems
Apr 17, 2005 11:11AM PDT

with the filter/censor blocking simple common words. Some mention of it in the Feedback forum.

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(NT) (NT) oh
Apr 17, 2005 1:03PM PDT