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Intact WW2 plane found in Sahara Desert.

by James Denison / May 12, 2012 4:12 AM PDT
200 miles from any city or village. Even at 10 miles a day the pilot would take 20 days to reach any civilization. Parachute found used as a shelter, pilot's body not there, he died somewhere walking in the vast desert in a desperate hope of finding water no doubt.
A fighter plane
from World War II that crashed in the Sahara 70 years ago has been
The Telegraph reports
that the intact American-made Curtiss Kittyhawk P-40, which had
remained untouched since its crash landing in 1942, was discovered by a
Polish oil company worker, Jakub Perka, who was exploring a remote
region of the Western Desert in Egypt, about 200 miles from the nearest
Flight Sergeant Dennis Copping, 24, initially survived the crash,
because a parachute found at the scene looks to have been used as a
makeshift shelter. But no trace of the body was found.
A military historian, noting that there would be no reason on earth to have found the plane in the middle of the desert, hailed the find as " a quite incredible time capsule, the aviation equivalent of Tutankhamun's Tomb." (more at link)
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And a long way from it's birthplace in Buffalo,NY....
by Tony Holmes / May 12, 2012 8:44 PM PDT

which is where every P-40 was built.

More picts: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2142300/Crashed-plane-Second-World-War-pilot-Dennis-Copping-discovered-Sahara-desert.html

My late uncle was a warbird mechanic in the European and Burma/India Theaters in WWII and I have his A&P manuals(airframe & powerplant) for the P-40,P-51,P-47 and P-38 Lightnings.I referenced the model number in the photos,Model H87A-3.It translates to an American designation of a model P-40E or a British designation of Kittyhawk MK.IA.The Allison V12 engine came from General Motors.

It's an extremely rare find with a story behind it and the Brits better move their butts to salvage it.Egyptian authorities removed the ammo for "safety reasons".For whose safety,the vultures that want to rape it for scrap value? The thing is in the middle of the Sahara and is a danger to no one!

It would be well deserved if those knuckleheads blew their butts to kingdom come while handling that ammo.Period correct armament for that plane was 6x.50cal with 155 rounds each of API ammo(armor piercing incendiary) which was steel jacketed with a magnesium core.It could be quite unstable after sitting in that heat all these years.

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Magnesium fire and
by Steven Haninger / May 12, 2012 9:32 PM PDT
how not to extinguish it

Some engine or tranny cases or real "mag" wheels could make car fires quite perilous to put out. What happens it that the heat produces enough energy to separate the hydrogen and oxygen from the water molecules and the explosive mixture re-ignites. Without the right right class extinguisher, you're better off letting it burn out.
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Amen Steve,you're talking a "Class D" or metal fire....
by Tony Holmes / May 13, 2012 12:39 AM PDT
In reply to: Magnesium fire and

as anyone who's been in the service can testify,WP or White Phosphorus falls into the same category.You can submerge that crap in water and it still burns!

I researched Firefreeze worldwide years ago when I learned that Funny Car driver,John Force used it in the fire bottles of all his drag race cars to soak down the driver and buy time,it's also used at Indy & Nascar.Their headquarters are here in Jersey.

I went there and left with two 2.5gal stainless extinguishers filled with their product, "Cold Fire".One is sitting here in my kitchen and the other on the side of my box at work.We went outside and I saw the manager light a small cannister of magnesium.The only thing that put it out was the cold fire,co2 and dry chem had no effect.


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I'm sure you know that the Baseball stadium in Buffalo
by Ziks511 / May 15, 2012 5:05 AM PDT

was called Pilot Field because of the two aircraft manufacturers. It was used in the movie The Natural, because it replicated fields from the 20's. Sadly it is no more, it was torn down shortly after the film.


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Sounds like a Twilight Zone episode
by Josh K / May 12, 2012 10:25 PM PDT

Wow, what a find.

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Bound to be more elsewhere
by Willy / May 13, 2012 1:27 AM PDT

It never ceases to amaze me the finds that are found. Anything from a farmer plowing up a aerial bomb, to bones from some jungle, to war planes frozen in Greenland. I read a story not about recovery but the discovery of a *** WWII tank in a cavern part of underground(caves) water river in New Guinea(sp). A real life story of cave divers trying to reach surface after being cut-off by rising water. The tank probably got there by falling through an opening either by driving into it or having it collapse(cave ceiling) under them. -----Willy Happy

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Egypt has created a magnificent WW2 collection of tanks
by Ziks511 / May 15, 2012 4:58 AM PDT

and other vehicles, many nicely restored and painted at El Alamein. And in Burma they have discovered 24 Spitfire Mk 14s crated and buried. Apparently they're in reasonable condition.

And speaking of Buffalo, Bell Aircraft, manufacturer of the Bell P 39 Aircobra was based there. The Bell X-1 the first plane to break the sound barrier in level flight was built there too. The Russians loved the P-39 because the 37mm cannon which fired from the centre of the propeller could be skipped up off roadways or frozen ground into the underside of German Tanks where the armour was thinnest to destroy the tanks.

There are several flyable P-40's in the US, mostly out west from Nevada and California to Washington state.

Interestingly, at least to me, the P-40 scored no victories over Pearl Harbour. It's predecessor, the P-35 was the only aircraft to score a kill. All the other Japanese aircraft shot down fell to anti-aircraft fire.


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