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Installing older Windows OS over preinstalled Windows 10

by RM2850 / November 1, 2015 8:01 AM PST

I want to know if installing (from disk) Windows Vista on a new computer with pre-installed Windows 10 is possible and, if so, will it function properly?

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The OS will function.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 1, 2015 8:05 AM PST

But just like before you have to hunt down drivers for devices to function properly.

Nothing has changed since before 1995 about this so the answer remains the same. OS works fine, need drivers for things/devices that didn't work.

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Beside the driver issue,
by Oldartq / November 1, 2015 10:08 AM PST

you said NEW computer..which means maybe win vista don't belong to it. Is this retail version or OEM version Vista?

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In re: Beside the driver issue
by RM2850 / November 1, 2015 2:03 PM PST

It is OEM version Vista.

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OEM versions can be harsh.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 1, 2015 2:09 PM PST

If it's been installed activated it often fails to activate.

-> Why the move from 10 to Vista. Sounds like a move way back to not a well liked version.

Did you want a more pre-8/10 interface? Did you try Classic Shell?

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Why the move?...
by RM2850 / November 1, 2015 3:21 PM PST

The only reason is that it is my wife's request. She needs a new laptop but does not want to give up her Vista and she is adamant. Beyond that I couldn't tell ya! Happy

OEM version was only going to be me trying to copy the OS from her old computer and install it on the new one. I'm also looking online to just buy the disk with COA and use that...which ever one is easier and quickest. I don't have a preference beyond that.

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OEM license dies with the PC.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 1, 2015 3:35 PM PST
In reply to: Why the move?...
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OEM license dies with the PC
by RM2850 / November 1, 2015 4:27 PM PST

Okay, wasn't sure about that. With regard to what the PC it is, I don't have one picked out yet because I can't buy one until this issue is resolved to my satisfaction. I don't want to get a new computer that can't work with Vista installed to replace a newer OS. That's how adamant my wife is about not switching to the 10 (or ANYTHING newer than Vista). It's very frustrating and I'm not willing to go into anymore detail than that. But that's where I'm at with this for now.

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It's the old catch 22.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 1, 2015 4:38 PM PST
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No OS, no computer?
by James Denison / November 1, 2015 4:41 PM PST
In reply to: It's the old catch 22.

Bob's most excellent idea is the way to go.

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cannot legally install oem vista
by renegade600 / November 1, 2015 2:20 PM PST

you cannot legally install oem vista because the computer already had an os installed. Oem software can only be installed in a computer that never had another os installed on it. In addition if the oem vista came from another computer it can no longer be installed on any other computer.

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Harsh.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 1, 2015 3:12 PM PST

Let's hope we read why they are doing this.

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Re: cannot legally install oem vista
by RM2850 / November 1, 2015 3:23 PM PST

Well, I was only looking at installing the OEM version by trying to copy the OS from her old computer and install it on the new one. I'm also looking online to just buy the disk with COA and use that...which ever one is easier and quickest (and least expensive!). I don't have a preference beyond that.

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Let's be very clear here.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 1, 2015 3:32 PM PST

The OS may run but do you need all the other parts to work like WiFi LAN, Sound video and more?

Many PCs don't have Vista drivers. 10 is not hard to use and even more acceptable after I install Classic Shell to make it look like Vista.

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Let's be very clear here...
by RM2850 / November 1, 2015 4:36 PM PST

Yes, I personally would agree. Of course, I have Windows 10 on my computer although considering going backward to windows 7 again...somethings not to fond of. I just can't convince her to switch and learn. But yes, the other parts are needed, i.e. WiFi LAN, sound, video etc. So this all may be moot. If it is not a feasible objective then I'm not going to pursue it and someone is going to have to give in I think.
Thanks to all for their obviously experienced input.

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OK, that's clearer. OS should run. Drivers can be
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 1, 2015 4:43 PM PST

Challenging to non-existent. Vista wasn't a well loved version so to answer if you could get it working we need to pick a model then check out if there are drivers.

You should find that answering this before you pick a model will result in total hair loss and empty bottles (booze or aspirin?)

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"vista wasn't a well loved version..."
by James Denison / November 1, 2015 5:02 PM PST
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Windows vista not well loved...
by RM2850 / November 1, 2015 7:46 PM PST

I'm really surprised because I really enjoy VISTA.
As far as pulling hair and empty bottles... Getting there fast. I didn't realize what a difficult process this could turn out to be.
Can I not copy all the drivers installed on the old computer and install them on the new one after installing the OS? Is that as daunting a task as it sounds after reading that last?

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In short no.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 2, 2015 11:17 AM PST

Unless the machine is identical, the drivers are not useful plus I never copied drivers unless they were in the ready to be installed form. That is, the setup.exe for this or that.

It is not a daunting task. That is, it's the same task that's been around since about 1995 where we would install the OS, go find and install drivers as need be.

Today, if you want to install Vista we first need to get the make/model checked out to see if they issued drivers for Vista.

And ONE LAST THING. There's 32 and 64 bit versions of Vista so we'll have to know which you intend to run.

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Re: In short no...
by RM2850 / November 2, 2015 1:35 PM PST
In reply to: In short no.

Okay. Good to know. Probably being using the 32-bit version. I'm pretty well sure of my path now thanks to all the input I've received here. I thank you for yours. You've been immensely helpful!

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I am curious,
by Oldartq / November 1, 2015 6:17 PM PST

What does she use the computer for...and what application/s she use?
I know just how that is. I was a die heart win2K guy until just recently. I had to give up when the application I need just no longer runs on win2k.

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Re: I am curious,
by RM2850 / November 1, 2015 7:39 PM PST
In reply to: I am curious,

I don't know all the apps she uses but I know one that she absolutely doesn't want to give up is windows movie maker. I'm not sure (because I haven't checked myself yet), but I thought that was also part of windows 10.

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Re: I am curious,
by RM2850 / November 1, 2015 7:49 PM PST
In reply to: Re: I am curious,

Also, what's the general opinion about Windows 8 or 8.1? Better, worse?

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I think win7 probably has all of what Vista have...
by Oldartq / November 1, 2015 11:10 PM PST
In reply to: Re: I am curious,

maybe more, that's why so many people likes it. Win8/8.1 and 10 don't have dvd maker or media center. It would be nice if someone with win7 let her try it first. Of course some new computer do come with win7 still.

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Yes, he should try to have her
by James Denison / November 1, 2015 11:37 PM PST

make the switch. Of course, we who are married know the drill already....

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Get a retail copy on Ebay
by James Denison / November 1, 2015 4:30 PM PST

If you get the upgrade pre SP1, you can install it as an upgrade, or as a full version (don't enter the product key, go for 30 day trial first) and then when it quits after 30 days, the product key will activate it just like a full version. Probably an MS glitch when they sold it, but it's not a "hack" since their software allowed it. So, with that one you have a choice of upgrade or full version. I don't know if the latter versions with SP1 included do that.

When it first came out these were being dumped for $25-30 and now surprisingly they are holding their price near or above $40
That's why it helps to know the pre SP1 trick.

2 days, current bid $28 for a Basic and Home Version 2 pack

Buy it now, $40 pre SP upgrade Home Version Vista


About $35 when shipping included.

Check some of these at Amazon, under $30

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000JYWFKU/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

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OEM versions of software
by orlbuckeye / November 2, 2015 5:03 AM PST

that arte installed by the PC vendor in the factory are tied to that computer. So they won't activate on another PC. Retail versions of Windows can be installed and will activate on other computers.

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Licensing prevents your from install
by Willy / November 3, 2015 8:04 AM PST

I suggest you rethink this. Plus, if you have access you maybe better using WIN7, instead. Again, you need the retail version or upgrade(guessing on that) maybe install Vista, then Win7 immediately after. Of course as stated to you the drivers is an issue and you must be tech savy enough to get around that and even then any drivers must acknowledge it can SUPPORT the components involved. So, really it becomes a ping-pong sorta deal getting everything to work. Overall, you really can't complain because you're going outside of the intended typical usage. On a side note, you may have better chance on a desktop PC than a laptop, IMHO on this.

good luck ------Willy Happy

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a post coming
by James Denison / November 1, 2015 4:42 PM PST

made a post, held up by filters, but has copies of Vista you can buy along with some good info. Check later for it.

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(NT) Re: a post coming...
by RM2850 / November 1, 2015 7:39 PM PST
In reply to: a post coming
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Re: a post coming...
by RM2850 / November 1, 2015 7:40 PM PST
In reply to: a post coming

Great... I'm looking forward to it. Happy

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