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Installing linux persistent USB on laptop without hard disk

So.. I have HP 2113 Mini- Note PC which has broken hard memmory and I wan't to run it live from 8GB small USB with persistent storage.
I wan't to install 18.1 XFCE mint if it works or I could 16 XFCE mint or any other mint just if it works.
I tried installing Kali Linux and managed to do that but the screen resolution is not supported so I get only a big zoomed in part of the desktop.
Could anybody help me with settuping the USB for that i read forums and some say you need 2 USB some don't some it isn't possible.
So if somebody have any experience like this and wan't to help please leave a reply.
The screen resolution of hp is 1280 x 768

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I've done this.

I make the USB stick on a good PC with a HDD or SSD and then I can use the persistent feature.

Now if someone challenged me to do this without a good PC, I take it as a they are pulling my leg or a joke challenge.

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So It is not possible to do this on laptop from 2008 which has no working HDD or SSD?
If i had a good PC with a HDD or SSD why would I wan't to use the persistent feature I could just install it on the HDD or SSD..

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You tell me how.

I shared how I make such a stick but I worry you are pulling my leg here. Let's clear something up. Ready?

To create this stick I do the creation using some web pages as a guide on a good working PC with HDD/SSD. Then I can use this stick on the machine without a HDD/SSD.

Now if you were to challenge me to create the stick on a PC without a HDD/SSD, well, there's the challenge which I will not accept.

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Ahh I understand

I see what are you saying sorry I did not understand you..
I'm not making that stick on that HP without SDD or HDD I'm making it on my main PC which is properly working at all. So I used the Linux Live USB Creator to make USB with 4GB persistent storage but I got to the problem when I try to install it on laptop I don't really know how to setup installation when i come to part when I need to choose where to install the system..

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What web page are you using?

When I make a Live USB stick, I use the web pages on that.

But when I use the Live USB stick, I don't install from the USB stick. I just boot that stick and use it. I can see where some folk might look at the boot screen and see an install option, get confused and not see where it may say to continue booting or run the OS off the stick.

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A lot of them

I see what are you saying but I don't want to run it live because that won't apply my changes to system I wan't to run it Live with Persistent storage on USB so when I plug it in I have all things saved what have I done before reboot..

I looked a lot of pages but my problem is not that part to make USB work it is installation and I have not found any page with how to configure that.

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Re: installation
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not that

Yeah I know that part I have done it the installation which makes problem is the on when you start linux and start the setup for installing from the desktop.

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Then I can't help.

Here I run a live with persistent storage but you wrote you don't want to do that. Or that's not what you meant.

At this point I think we cleared up the install challenge but then fail on running it live with persistence. That is, you write you want it to remember changes and keep files them you don't want that. Color me confused here.

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Because the Laptop doesn't have SDD or HDD it needs live USB with persistence which saves files in partition of USB so for that I must install the Linux OS in one of partitions.

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Then back to the web.

I'm not kidding here. You want a live Linux USB stick with persistence then you write you don't want it but to install it and you've lost me.

Pick a web page about creating a linux stick with persistence so I can check it out and follow along.

-> My definition of a Live USB stick is ANY Linux that runs from USB sticks with or without persistence. By telling me you don't want it live takes me to a dead end.

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Well, I'm on the web

I see how I lost you here.

For me Live USB is any Linux that runs without persistence and you lose all your saved data after you reboot PC

I wan't to install Live USB with persistence and that save files let's say you put another wallpaper and you reboot your pc and there is it still etc.

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Be back later.

I have spare USB keys and will try the link Kees noted above.

You can try that too.

Back when I get a stick working. I think I'll pick Ubuntu or Puppy for this round.

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PS. Changed my choice to Linux Mint.
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I'm back and Kees answer worked fine.

I wonder, did you remember to change settings in Linux Mint to save session settings on logout?

Hint: Click the Linux start button, Settings, Session and Startup, General, "Automatically save session on logout."

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That's not the problem

My problem is with installation. So when I put in USB stick in PC it starts and automaticly boots on the desktop (because I don't have HDD or SDD in it) and you have the CD icon for installation right?
I start it and It goes good to the moment when you get to the.. like on this screenshots I need this done but just for USB with 8GB could you explain me what do choose and setup..

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Thia is

I want an full installation of system on USB drive you know because there is no HDD or SDD... Do you know how to setup this?

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Re: full install

Apparently that can't be done, Then your options are:
- install a hard disk in your PC. A second-hand one is free or cheap.
- install live version + persistent storage.
- see if you can install it on a SD card on a Raspberry Pi

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I'm trying to do it with 2 USB one with iso on and I'm going to install it on the second USB and it will work on the USB with installed linux.. Somebody said that to me on mint forum

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Please tell if it works.

Of course, you can't install it on the stick you're running it on. So you have to boot from DVD or another stick. That's the trivial part of your operation.

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I'm back.

I didn't try to install from one USB to same USB since that's never going to work.

I did use Kees's first reply and made a nice bootable Linux with persistence that wallpaper and more is saved from session to session which well, I can't guess what you want at this point but it does work AFTER one setting change.

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USB form USB installation works the PC uses the USB like HDD/SDD I just need to optimize some features to minimize the writing of the PC like putting the ext2 and don't making swap particion because it is used for hibernate etc and I'm not planning to do it..

I needed to cancel the installation last time I'm going to do it from the start now..

Please tell me how did you do that.. When I insert and USB made with or without the persistence the laptop just boots up to the desktop and offers you know Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu you know... I think it is same with Mint I'm installing Mint right now and doesn't offer me Live USB persistence or what ever...

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I used the tool Kees noted.

Checked off the persistance feature with 4GB for that space, told it the ISO and pointed it at the USB stick. Too easy.

I can't guess what more you want at this point.

If you did want to install from UBUNTU to USB (another one) sure, try that. Tell us how it works out. In other words, I'm not going to try that.

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You don't understand me..

So.... the tool Kees noted only shows screenshots on how to make persistent USB on Windows, when I do that and boot the laptop without HDD or SDD it boots automaticly to the desktop with installation for full Linux Mint/Ubuntu you understand?
It doesn't give me menu where I can choose "Live USB Persistence" or whatever shows for you..

I had pre-downloaded ISO-s of next systems:
Linux Mint 18.1
Linux Mint 16
Ubuntu 13.04
Ubuntu 16.04.2

I first tried Mint 18.1 it says in installation I don't have enough memory I need 9.6 GB i think and I only have 8 GB
Then I go to Mint 16.. bad ISO it won't boot
I go to Ubuntu 16.04.2 again the memory problem it says I need 8.6 GB and I have 8 GB USB drive
I go to Ubuntu 13.04 I install it everything and it finishes installation and asks for reboot.. Then I remove the USB with ISO and it boots just to purple screen and stays like that.. I'm thinking what should I do now

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Not clear.

I installed Mint with 1.5 GB persistent storage on a 8 GB USB-stick, using this exact same UUI-tool on my main Windows PC. The stick now still has nearly 5 GB free space. And when I boot from it (after pressing F11 and selecting that USB-stick as boot device, it boots to the standard Linux desktop (which indeed still has an option to install it, but that's not needed, of course, unless you want to install Linux on some other hard disk).

That menu with the checkbox for persistence only appears in the UUI-too when you run it in Windows to make that bootable USB-stick. Once you boot from that, it won't reappear, since it's not inside Linux, but inside the UUI-tool in Windows.

However, when made that stick on my main Windows PC it didn't ask for a reboot when ready. There is no reason at all why Windows should have to reboot when the UUI-tool is ready with making that stick. So that's strange. But if it boots from the stick you made and you see the Linux desktop, you're ready.

Happy computing with your Linux.

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little clear now?

I got confused with the install icon on the desktop, so I make bootable usb stick with pendrivelinux iso image of linux on it and 4 GB persistent storage and just boot the pc and I'm ready to go and save my files on it or...?

It asked for reboot when I finished the installation on the laptop not on the windows after making bootable usb... I'm using two pc-s to do this npt on the same as you see up I have an laptop hp mini 2133 without HDD/SDD so no need for F11 or accesing the boot menu to setup for him to boot from usb because the usb is the only thing in it

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NO. To get it to work I had to change a setting.

I noted it before but will copy it here. To get settings to stick I had to go to settings.

Hint: Click the Linux start button, Settings, Session and Startup, General, "Automatically save session on logout."

That may vary across distros but for Linux Mint XFCE 64 bit, that was it.

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I'm gonna try It now hope it works... If not gonna do full installation of puppy or linux lite to my 8 GB USB

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Worked here.

So I worry that either the distro you used is different in some way or there is some other issue. I've used this stick on a few machines now and it's fine.

Good luck with your future trials.

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so, you want a FULL install to USB drive?

It can be done, but as you discovered, you need the room, currently more than 8GB. The best way to do full install, if you have a large enough USB flashdrive, is to boot a LIVE DVD and clk on the Install icon on it's desktop and then point the boot part to the proper /dev/sdx device, and point the OS to the partition you want it on, the /dev/sdxy, where sd is scsi drive, the x is the actual drive (a, b, c, ) and the y is the assigned partition number.

Seriously though, a USB flashdrive works better if you create it LIVE (high compression squash file) and with a "persistent" /casper-rw partition for saving all changes into. The slower read speed on flashdrives means full install that takes up 8-9 GB takes longer to read and boot from than a 2GB compressed system the LIVE version uses.

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