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Innocent little lambs

May 15, 2007 8:50PM PDT
U.S. divulges new details on released Gitmo inmates

?The Pentagon on Monday released the names of six former Guantanamo detainees who U.S. officials say re-emerged as Islamist fighters in Afghanistan after their release from the U.S. military prison in Cuba.?

?Pentagon officials said the detainees lied about their past by claiming to be farmers, truck drivers, cooks, small-scale merchants or low-level combatants -- assertions that were sometimes backed up by fellow inmates.?

?The Guantanamo prison now has about 385 inmates. Records on 517 current and former detainees show that 95 percent have been members of or associated with al Qaeda or the Taliban and that 73 percent participated in hostilities against U.S. or coalition forces, defense officials said.?

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But your numbers are short of 100%....
May 15, 2007 11:59PM PDT

Even if 384 of the 385 are guilty and just one is not, doesn't the one deserve better of us? AFAIC the 384 can rot in hell but the 1 deserves to be heard even if it means we have to listen to a bunch of BS from the 384....

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Already said as much...
May 16, 2007 12:10AM PDT

but that doesn't let the guilty ones off the hook. They ARE being heard and getting their day in court, so to speak.

My point is that there is a widespread impression that most of the Gitmo detainees are there by mistake and that impression is deliberately being pushed by some (enemies of the US), We've seen that line of BS come up here in SE a number of times.

If anything we are being too easy on them and releasing some that should have been held on to longer.

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You need to remember
May 16, 2007 12:12AM PDT

That the one's brought to Gitmo were previously screened. They weren't sent there for no reason. And the point of this news story which not surprisingly has not made the news, is that look at the "innocent" ones that were released.

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All the inmates in Federal Prisons are innocent too...
May 16, 2007 12:17AM PDT

Ask them. They were all wrongly accused and convicted.

Kinda makes it hard for the ones that actually were.

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I remember well...
May 16, 2007 12:41AM PDT

and I've seen plenty of news stories on actual combatants that were released only to be caught in the fight again. I also remember Afghanistan before the Taliban and wonder how many innocents got caught up in their mist after having their house or barn or whatever commandeered by the Taliban for the fight...

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I'm sure that happened...
May 16, 2007 12:52AM PDT

I'm very sure things like that happened in WW2 and other wars as well. Doesn't change the fact that those people were shooting at our guys.

It's not like we are executing them in droves (or at all). In WW2 my mother worked on the trains transporting German prisoners to detention camps. According to her most of them were kids; I doubt they were all fighting because they wanted to; they had no choice. But it would not have made any sense to let them go until we had won the war. None of them had lawyers or trials or anything like that.

You can be a "legitimate:" farmer or cook and still be an enemy combatant.

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(NT) What does that have to do with anything?
May 16, 2007 1:00AM PDT
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It reflects our values...
May 16, 2007 1:19AM PDT

if we make the effort to get to the truth...