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Information on Oil for Food you'll never see here

by Ziks511 / February 9, 2005 8:34 AM PST

or on Bill O'Reilly.

"What seems to be consistently overlooked--not only by rightwing pundits but at congressional hearings and in the New York Times--is a distinction of enormous significance: the U.N. is being attacked for the policies and failures of particular member nations. The Oil for Food Programme was not some concoction of Kofi Annan's. It was created by a vote of the members of the Security Council. And every aspect of how the program ran--what goods were allowed, the monitoring procedures, the transfer of funds, everything--was explicitly established by the members of the Security Council. Kofi Annan did not have a vote; but the United States and Britain did, and they approved of every resolution and decision that determined how the Oil for Food Programme worked. Whatever critics may say, "the U.N. bureaucracy" did not design a program that handed over cash to Saddam Hussein. The fifteen members of the Security Council--of which the United States was by far the most influential--determined how income from oil proceeds would be handled, and what the funds could be used for. The U.N.'s personnel operating the Oil for Food Programme did not set these policies. They simply executed the program that was designed by the members of the Security Council.

"For the most part, the U.N. has not publicly defended itself. There is an internal investigation, led by former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, and U.N. staff are making few public comments until the investigation is complete. Ironically, if it is true that Saddam Hussein's government smuggled and skimmed such vast amounts, much of the blame can be laid at the feet of the United States. For over a decade U.S. representatives have dominated decisions and actions regarding Iraq by the Security Council and its fifteen-member 661 Committee. * The committee operated by consensus, effectively giving each member veto power, a power the United States has made liberal use of. The United States is also on record as the committee member that most consistently and actively scrutinized Iraq's dealings under the Oil for Food Programme. Scrutiny of the country's physical borders--both land and sea--has also been dominated by the United States since the last Gulf War. Indeed, since then, no country has been in a better position to evaluate and control Iraq's business."

Rob Boyter

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You're probably right. Joy Gordon also thinks that our
by Kiddpeat / February 9, 2005 8:54 AM PST

Cuba policy is bad, and is linked with the far left. I don't think Americans are terribly interested in what she has to say.

I see that, according to her, the U.S. ran the Oil for Food program, and forced poor Kofi to fill his pockets with money.

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(NT) (NT) shhh they will beleave you
by Mark5019 / February 9, 2005 9:04 AM PST
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by Mark5019 / February 9, 2005 9:20 AM PST

Iraqi oil brought food - and the UN its biggest scandal
From James Bone in New York
Claims of corruption over the $64bn scheme seem to have been confirmed

AN EXPLOSIVE report by the UN?s own inquiry into the Oil-for-Food scandal charged yesterday that the head of the programme secretly received oil allocations from Saddam Hussein. The report also raised questions about the role of relatives of the former UN Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali.
The revelations threw the UN into crisis by adding credence to allegations of widespread corruption in the largest humanitarian effort in the organisation?s history.

The three-member commission of inquiry, led by Paul Volcker, the former Chairman of the US Federal Reserve, accused Benon Sevan, the head of the programme, of ?a grave and continuing conflict of interest? and said that it was ?basically improper? for him to have solicited oil allocations from Iraq,,7374-1469875,00.html

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Whether we created the system or not
by dirtyrich / February 9, 2005 10:11 AM PST

means nothing since Kofi Annan's administration, who ADMINISTERED the program, violated the system we set up, and hid their actions from us.
Under the same logic you could blame the Founding Fathers for our crime troubles now.

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Isn't it amazing how these people criticise the US
by SteveGargini / February 10, 2005 11:30 AM PST

and fail to mention the failure of the UN to administer the system properly.
Excellent point DR.
The UN administration are under investigation over it now, and massive amounts of money have been found to not even go to Iraq.
I shall dig some BBC links out which should show quite clearly that the US has absolutely nothing to do with this corruption.

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(NT) (NT) steve if God told them that they wouldnt beleave it
by Mark5019 / February 10, 2005 11:32 AM PST
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Well here here is one of the links Mark
by SteveGargini / February 10, 2005 11:52 AM PST

Your right of course Mark.
They deliberately pretend that they didn't notice the lack of submission of very important points, and ones that take the blame away from the US.
Clever reporting, but it doesn't wash with me.
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your right but will they read and see
by Mark5019 / February 10, 2005 11:57 AM PST


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(NT) (NT) I doubt it Mark - the other garbage sounds better :(
by SteveGargini / February 10, 2005 3:21 PM PST
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There's no question that others have exploited a system
by Ziks511 / February 10, 2005 5:09 PM PST

set up primarily by the US delegation at the UN, though with what Bush Administration input I don't know. Given the current climate in Washington I would think that the US delegation at the UN is taking their orders directly from the White House, since State at that time was headed by Colin Powell who didn't seem to be very highly thought of by the others in the Administration.

Point is the US made the rules in a sloppy manner and others have exploited them. Must be the first time in history that some US company wasn't in there sucking up the swill though.

Rob Boyter

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A quibble with the title ...
by Bill Osler / February 10, 2005 10:44 AM PST

I think we just did see that information here.

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(NT) (NT) LOL, thanks Dr Bill.
by Ziks511 / February 10, 2005 5:03 PM PST

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