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In-Ear Headphones - Shure or Etymonic?

Mar 21, 2006 2:44AM PST

Hey guys,

I'm interested (like many) in upgrading to some decent headphones for the addiction in my pocket (ok, come on now, it's an iPod for heaven's sake.) After doing some research I found that:

A.) Shure and Etymonic seem to receive praise for their models
and

B.) I haven't seen any reviews that contrast/compare these two manufacturers

and finally

C.) I'm not sure anyone is comfortable in "sharing" their in-ear headphones, so a back to back comparison by me (ala limited cash-ola) is virtually impossible.

Is anyone able to draw any sort of conclusions between some of the Shure and Etymonic models? Specifically I'm interested in the Etymonic ER-6I and the Shure E3C, but I'm also open to other models based on reviews (er-4s, e4c, etc.)

Thanks!

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In my experience...
Mar 21, 2006 3:22AM PST

I have the Shure E3C's, and I really like them. For the price, I think the sound quality is AMAZING. Everything seems to be rich and clear, and it works awesome with some of the default EQ settings on my iPod, so I really like them. One thing, however, that I didn't like about them, is that they are a little difficult to get into the ear sometimes, it seems. I know it might be a little hard to "try before you buy", but that is always going to be the best way. At the very least, buy either one someplace that has a return policy, where if you don't like the first, you can return and try the second.

Hope I could be of some help! Happy

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It just so happens
Mar 21, 2006 4:21AM PST

I had the opportunity to try both the Etymotic ER6 and Shure E2C in-ear headphones. I actually bought the Etymotic first. The only difference I detected was the price (Etymotic being more expensive). Anyhow, I settled on the Shure E2C since they were half the price of the E3C. Since the sound was great, I couldn't imagine it being any better for double the price. You just have to get it in your ear canal - an issue with the ear buds. I found the Etymotic to be much tougher to install properly for optimal sound so I thoroughly cleansed them with alcohol and returned them to the store. Hey, they took them back - what they do with them after that is up to them Happy

I would suggest you keep your ears VERY clean since they tend to find things even your morning Q-tip will miss. Happy So if they suddenly stop working, you've probably clogged it. Yes, this discussion is now officially oogie.

-Kevin S.

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Shure for sure
Mar 21, 2006 5:37AM PST

Shure makes just overall quality products. But I am only judging this based on their professional microphone construction (SM57's, SM87's, SM81's, and many others I have used over the years.)

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Ewwwww
Mar 21, 2006 12:03PM PST

Yuck. They took them back? God, I hope they didn't put them back on the shelf. Thats like taking underwear back.

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LOL
Mar 22, 2006 1:02AM PST

That's great info! *runs to the restroom in disgust* Just kidding. I actually tried the Apple brand in-ear headphones and they were terrible. I also noticed that they wouldn't seal correctly, but they really don't go in the ear canal very far.

Since you had both the ER6 and E2C, can you remember any differences? If price wasn't a concern, which one would you choose?

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clean ears...
Mar 30, 2006 4:25AM PST

The Etymotic instructions suggest you use ear drops. I picked up Murine Ear Drops at my local CVS and have never had a problem with clogging. I use the drops only about once a month...

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Another question
Mar 21, 2006 6:53AM PST

I tried my friend's Shure E2C headphones in class and they sounded GREAT but I can't imagine how they would sound on the bus

Right now I listen to my iPod on the bus with the volume turned up 3/4th of the way just so I can hear it so if anyone knows, how much noise do the E2Cs block out when there's a LOT of noise?

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Deafness
Mar 25, 2006 3:33AM PST

If you continue to listen to your music with the volume too loud, you will soon have to turn it up even louder because you will end up with loss of hearing.

One advantage of ear buds is that you do not have to turn it up so loud.

DON

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noise...
Mar 30, 2006 4:27AM PST

I wear my Etymotics on plane trips. Even at take-off, with music playing low, you can't even tell you're on a plane. Normally you can't hear yourself think!

So I suspect they would be great for the bus, too!

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Etymotic
Mar 21, 2006 7:00AM PST

I use the ER-6i in-ear headphones. They work wonders. Unforunately, I am very rough, and I think i killed one of the wires, as I am now in the process of getting it fixed (one stopped working suddenly). Now, before thinking that this shows that they are inferior, I replace my headphones (any) roughly every 5-7 months for just this reason- the warranty is just still active on these.

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Consider another brand?
Mar 21, 2006 9:14AM PST

I had a pair of the Shure E2s, and they were fantastic. The isolation is very good and the quality of the sound is pretty amazing. The problem is that I used them for portable use, and broke them twice before deciding that it wasn't worth sending them in for warranty repair again. I guess they were just a bit to fragile for me.

I recently bought a pair of Sharp HP-MD33S from AudioCubes in Japan. They are less than $50, including shipping to the US, and the sound quality on them is also pretty fantastic. While the isolation is not as good as the Shures (and I'm guessing the Etymotics either), I would seriously recommend looking into these guys as a potential alternative. Of course they're not going to be *quite* as good, but for the price, it's worth considering. And for what it's worth, I find the Sharps more comfortable too.

Cheers,
Dalton

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That's kinda depressing...
Mar 22, 2006 3:51AM PST

Thank you for your durability comments, and thanks to Brad as well for his feedback. I've been going through Sony earbuds about every 7 months on average, but I had attributed it to either my rough handling or poor build quality. I had some hope that the beaucoup cost of the Etymotics or the Shures would translate into not only better sound quality but added durability. I guess that mobile use and thin wires from any company translate into hastened destruction no matter who makes the headphones. I'll stick with the Sonys, then. The sound may not be audiophile quality, but it is pretty damn good and I can get 'em for about $30 with shipping. Better to blow 60 bucks or so a year than four to six HUNDRED!

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xtrememac fs1 and altec lansing inmotion im616
Mar 21, 2006 11:47AM PST

i know u only have the shure and etymonic phones for comparison but i just got a pair of xtrememac's fs1's and i freakin love 'em. best fit and comfort is with the foam buds.

i also have a buddy who has the inmotion im616s and swears by them. both models are on amazon for less than $100(New not used) even though i think they retail for $150 or more.

thought i'd put it out there as options... good hunting...

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Thanks for the feedback
Mar 22, 2006 1:09AM PST

Thanks everyone for the feedback so far. I was leaning towards the Etymotic ER-6I for a few reasons (color, price, and good reviews.) I have a coworker who has the e3c's and also mentions the same occasional seal issues. Since fitment really will differ from person to person, I'm really hoping to find an audio quality comparison of the different models.

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Neither, the best headphones are Bang & Olufsen A8's
Mar 25, 2006 12:42AM PST

For comfort, dynamic response, ease of use and warranty (3 years), nothing beats Bang & Olufsen's A8 headphones. I work out in them all the time and use their Form 2's at home for serious listening. They cost a bit more, but they're really worth it.

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Ehhh, well...
Mar 27, 2006 3:34AM PST

Hi,

I've had my A8's for over a month now and while I won't comment on sound reproduction - *I* think they sound good but I honestly am not qualified - I will say that I have been underwhelmed by their fit, comfort, and ability to stay on my ears.

This, of course, will be very subjective, but I find that despite their cool customized fit possibilities they still let in too much noise at the gym and begin to fall off after 10 minutes on the treadmill (sweat + pounding = bad).

I've had to resort to some really cheap 'phones like these at the gym:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_S2_Sports_Headphones_MDR_A35G/4505-6468_7-20604864.html

Your mileage may (has!) vary. Wink

- Micah

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Etymotic & Shure WAY too expensive
Mar 25, 2006 1:35AM PST

While I haven't tried the Etymotic, I got to try my friend's Shure's, and they seemed to me to be more fragile than my Sony MDR-EX51's. The isolation was about equal in the setting I listened to them in, and the Sonys had a little bit better bass, with the highs a little better on the Shures. However, with the Sonys at $20 a pop on Amazon, I can go through 10 pair before I get to the price of the Shures, so it's obvious which ones I pick. Everyone I've recommended them to has loved them as well, and I'm always getting comments of how much they love their Sonys.

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Shure E2C Fragile
Mar 25, 2006 7:05AM PST

Yeah I had a pari and did not use them that harshly. They didn't last a year. There is a ''blown'' speaker sound with them now. I am struggling with the iPod earbuds, because the sound was definately better with the Shure.
Not sure I want to invest in something so expensive again.

Also did want to mention that I could turn the sound way down with the Shures.

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Wire Broke in E2C plug ,otherwise OK
Mar 26, 2006 2:14AM PST

I have a pair of E2C's. Worked well for a couple years. Very happy with them. Drowns out annoying neighbors,etc.

Then as happens with most of my ear phones, the plug fails. A left or right input wire breaks at the junction of the cord to jack assembly, thus cutting off the right or left sound input. Wiggling it around can restore the sound temporarily,till I move around too much.

So I have a pair of E2C that I'm pleased with as long as I don't move. Happy Are plugs easy to replace or fix?

I may take a look at those Sony's.

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Results: Etymotic ER-6i
Mar 27, 2006 1:10AM PST

After reading the reviews, I went ahead and decided on the Etymotic ER-6i's. So far I am really impressed with the sound quality. I have had zero problems getting a good seal. It's just like using earplugs. I have no idea how you can NOT get a seal using these. The quality seems great. No issues with the cord like others have mentioned. Yes the cord seems somewhat thin, but unless you're using these while framing houses or excavating dirt, I have no idea how you could break them. I plan on also using these as in-ear monitors for studio recording.

Two thumbs up.

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Late feedback for any others...
Mar 27, 2006 4:21AM PST

Good luck, linkbeat, with the earphones, it seems you made a good choice!

I have the Shure E4Cs, and didn't get a chance to post last week. For anyone considering these, they're great "passive, noise canceling" earphones. The quality of the sound is superb & tight. They're exceptionally good in planes and subways, where I DON'T need to crank up the volume to drown out the ambient noise. (ahem, Tom)
-Mo

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Custom fit earpieces
Mar 27, 2006 6:22AM PST

This article is several years old but it details an experience with having a custom mold taken of your ear so that a headphone would fit "perfectly."

It has its ups and downs but it's something I'd love to try someday if I found money just burning a hole in my pocket.

http://www.soundstage.com/fringe/fringe200008.htm

-Kevin S.

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In-Ear Monitors
Mar 29, 2006 11:54PM PST

I use my Shure E4Cs for in-ear monitoring when I'm in my studio as well.

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If you want the best try Ultimate Ears . . .
Mar 29, 2006 5:08PM PST

Both the Shure and the Etymotics are great earbuds but if you're serious about getting the best then you need to consider the Ultimate Ears range too. There has been some criticism about the ''fragility'' of the earbuds but you don't chuck a Stradivarius around . . . . so I guess you need to treat them with a little respect too. They come with a great protective carry case and spares are readily available should anything ever break. They also know what customer service means!!
Over to you . . . . and your ears. Did I mention they also fit a treat??

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huh? :-)
Mar 29, 2006 8:30PM PST

Fit a WHAT?? Gotta help me here as I am STILL trying to figure out my Irish friends here... Fit a treat??

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Fit well
Mar 31, 2006 1:37AM PST

"a treat" is a good thing. Like getting a treat.

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Fits a treat . . . .
Mar 31, 2006 5:14AM PST

Sorry Guys I thought you all understood english. It is a colloquialism for fitting well (superbly actually). I must try to come to grips with what you Guys have done to my native English in future!! Happy

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Shure
Mar 29, 2006 11:47PM PST

I use the Shure E4C's and couldn't be happier. They're super sensitive, you get great volume with very little power, they have super good highs and totally awesome lows, and when installed properly, block about 80% of most audible sound when you're not playing anything, and when you've got something playing, you can't hear anything except what you're playing. The sound quality is fantastic, and while you should be careful with the volume, they sound fantastic all the way through ear splitting levels.

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Shure E3c with Fit Kit
Mar 30, 2006 8:53PM PST

I'm not sure (Shure) why acheiving a proper seal is such an issue. A pair of E3c's comes with a Fit Kit that has seven different types and sizes of sleeves. I would think this would fit just about anyone. Also, on the web site Shure shows the correct way to insert the ear bud. This might help a few users.