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importing HDV

Mar 28, 2007 4:05AM PDT

I just got an fx7 and I'm new to HDV. I am using an iMac G5 (the older one without the built-in camera) and I tried importing my footage with the usb chord that came with the camera but it's not compatible my computer it only uses firewire. So then i tried my fire wire chord from my old camera and it worked but was importing at 1/4 speed. What do I need to get to import at regular time? I was wondering if an 800 firewire would work.

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Congratulations on your FX7. I am envious.
Mar 28, 2007 4:53AM PDT

You CANNOT transfer video from your camera using USB. And yes, your G5 has USB - that is how your keyboard and mouse connect. There are two USB jacks on the back of your machine. Plug the keyboard in one, plug the mouse into the keyboard. Te only thing that USB connection to you camera can do is transferring stills from the camera - not video.

So you figured out that using the FireWire cable is how to transfer the High Definition video from the camera. Great! The video you are importing gets buffered and "processed" during the import phase. Your G5 does not have a FireWire 800 connection - and even if it did (if you add one), it will not increase the processing time - it is not the FireWire connection.

The ONLY way to speed up that import speed is to increase the CPU speed - that is, replace the computer with a newer one. For real time, high definition video transfer, a MacPro tower will do the trick.

If ALL your video import is happening at 1/4 time, I do have a couple of suggestions, but it will not get to real time:

1) Max out your RAM. Electronic - REAL - RAM will help.

2) In case you have not already noticed, high definition video will take up about 4x more space on you hard drive than standard definition video. You may need another hard drive. Since you did not tell us which G5, I am presuming a G5 flatpanel - without the camera. An external hard drive connecting using FireWire will work just fine.

I use a G5 flatpanel iMac (2GHz CPU, I think). It maxes out at 2 gig RAM. I use an external SIIG hard drive case with 250 gig drive (bigger is better). My applications stay on the internal drive; the video files stay on the external drive(s). I use a Sony HDR-HC1 and have been editing high-definition video using iMovie and FinalCut Pro for well over a year. Transfer of high definition video from my camera to my 'puter is between 1/4 to occasional 3/4 time. Using my son's CoreDuo Intel-chip based iMac flatpanel results in 1/2 to occasional real-time transfer.

In either case, standard definition video is transferred realtime on either machine (even on my older G4 tower).

I don't start the import and just sit there... rather, I know how much I shot, so I start the transfer and go do something else. I will occasionally check on it, otherwise, when the contents of the tape have been imported, the buffered video continues to be processed, the camera will keep going until the end of the tape then automatically stop when the end of the tape is reached... the video apps are smart enough to know that there is no video coming over, so you won't have any wasted hard drive space - if the camera is blue-screened (not playing any content), then nothing is being imported or buffered or taking up hard drive space.

I hope this helps.

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usb chord
Mar 28, 2007 6:18AM PDT

FIY I knew that my mac had a usb input. I was also thinking about getting the new tower but will it for sure make my editing process go faster? Because if I'm going to spend all that money then I want it to be really fast.

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oh yeah
Mar 28, 2007 6:40AM PDT

and why did the fx7 only come with a USB chord if it can't import with it? Why wouldn't it come with a firewire?

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Go figure.
Mar 28, 2007 7:04AM PDT

It's a recurring question. Short lesson is to leave it in the box.

Bob

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reply
Mar 28, 2007 8:53AM PDT

What?

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The USB cable is included
Mar 28, 2007 9:36AM PDT

in the box because they are inexpensive and can be used for transferring stills off the memory card. FireWire cable is not inexpensive... and most computers do not yet commonly have FireWire ports - unless you use a Mac, in which case they have been standard and available for years.

Sony is finally including the FireWire cable in the box for the HDR-HC5 and HDR-HC7 cameras - but I believe they are 4-pin to 4-pin for use with the Sony Vaio computers... not 4-pin to 6-pin like most folks need.

By the way, as a Mac user, you should know that iMovie and FinalCut Express or Pro won't even recognize there is a camcorder available to transfer video from the MiniDV tape via the USB port... They recognize only FireWire for video transfer... and Macs have FireWire ports too, but Apple does not ship FireWire cables in the box... so what's your point?

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HDR-HC7 Firewire Connection
Aug 8, 2007 2:48AM PDT

That begs a question, how do you connect the 4-pin SONY cable to a MAC firewire port? I'm hoping there is some type of adapter. Also, I'm assuming the firewire output of the HDR-HC7 is that "I-link" port. Otherwise, I'm not sure how to connect via firewire to my MAC. Any suggestions?

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The firewire cable in the box
Aug 8, 2007 1:43PM PDT

is typically for the four-pin firewire connector on Sony computers (and some third party firewirecard add-ons and some PCMCIA FireWire cards). Spend a couple of bucks and get a 4-pin (camera side) to 6-pin (computer side) FireWire cable. I use Monster and Belkin - I understand there are less expensive brands out there that do the job just fine.

Yes, the iLink port is FireWire is IEEE1394 is DV port. They are all the same.

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The new MacPro tower is about
Mar 28, 2007 9:40AM PDT

six (maybe more) times faster than the 2 year old iMac G5 you are using.

Yes, the high definition import will be faster on that new mahine.

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Consider reading
Mar 28, 2007 10:09AM PDT

page 89 of the HDR-FX7 manual. The section is "Copying movies on a tape to a computer"... There is a note, "You cannot copy movies using a USB cable".

Also, there is useful information on some other pages in the manual. For example, as with all FireWire based camcorders - it is possible to blow up the FireWire chip in the camera. This will not be covered under warranty - and will be expensive to repair. See page 90.

I strongly suggest you read through the manual before you break your new investment.

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maybe maybe
Mar 28, 2007 12:39PM PDT

well the mac pro is an amazing machine. theres no doubt about that.

it has been quite some time since it released. it might be updated with 8 cores, which will almost double the performance compared to the current mac pro.

but i am not sure if u need THAT power. its like an over kill. with 8 cores you can do multiple heavy tasks simultaneously.