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Immigration has a "hint of maple" ?.....

May 19, 2007 12:51AM PDT
U.S. immigration looks to Canada

WASHINGTON (CP) - A sweeping immigration overhaul proposed this week in the United States has a distinctly Canadian flavour.

One of the key parts of a new Senate deal supported by President George W. Bush includes a point system to assess merit when it comes to choosing new citizens, something Canada has been using for years. The United States has long admitted immigrants mostly on the basis of family ties.

Senate Republicans like the merit-based approach that measures skills and education levels because it could help make the United States more competitive.

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Let me put it in simple terms...
May 21, 2007 6:02AM PDT

even you can grasp Jonah.

H-1B visas are specific and pre-set non-immigration quotasIN ADDITION to regular immigration quotas and DK's post makes it abundantly clear that he is uninformed on the issue as does your own.

H visas are all non-immigration visas as are the B visas (business) and the F visas (Academic) as well as the J visas (Exchange Visitors) as well as others. They are ALL short term visas for those not intending permanent immigration status and are thus for VISITORS rather than IMMIGRANTS.

It just don't get much simpler than that.

Educate yourself, never to old or busy or dim to learn:
http://www.usavisanow.com/h1bvisainfo.html

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PS - if you don't like that link because it isn't official..
May 21, 2007 6:20AM PDT

start here http://travel.state.gov/visa/visa_1750.html

Note the menu on the left where TEMPORARY VISITORS are differentiated from IMMIGRANTS TO THE U.S.

So you won't get lost this link informs you of temp work visa types:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1271.html

Classifications

The Immigration and Nationality Act provides several categories of nonimmigrant visas for a person who wishes to work temporarily in the United States. There are annual numerical limits on some classifications which are shown in parentheses.

H-1B classification applies to persons in a specialty occupation which requires the theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge requiring completion of a specific course of higher education. This classification requires a labor attestation issued by the Secretary of Labor (65,000). This classification also applies to Government-to-Government research and development, or co-production projects administered by the Department of Defense (100);...

So now you should have no problem understanding that DK's remarks reference an H-1b worker and ERRONEOUSLY imply that it would affect immigration.

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Of course
May 23, 2007 7:22PM PDT

Of course when those visas expire they all quickly exit the country and return home. It's a wonderful system and works so well, we should embrace it lovingly. Thank God and country for visas. Surely that will help control illegal immigration. Now here's the plan. We'll make them legal at the first to ease their way into the country, then let them become illegal later on. Finally, when we realize the situation, instead of correcting it as Americans should have expected and counted on, we'll just amnesty them. No better way to stop criminals than to amnesty them, yes? One could look at it as allowing the rest of the world to compete against Americans for jobs in the US, the country we and our forefathers built for ourselves and our children. Nothing like doing the most of the building through the more difficult years and then inviting the squatters in. Nothing quite like the government breaking faith with the past to rob their descendants of the future, so it can be given over to others.

What would we do without Visas to make it all seem so much better.

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(NT) a simple "yesy" would have been enough
May 21, 2007 12:22PM PDT
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Let me put it in simple terms...
May 23, 2007 7:26PM PDT

...even you can grasp Eddy. It's not working. Nuff said.

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But you show you cant grasp it jimmy...
May 24, 2007 9:42AM PDT

the visa system is working well and has for many many years.

It is the failure to prosecute and immediately DEPORT all illegal aliens that is the actual problem.

Do I need to point out to you that illegal aliens haven't bothered going through the process of applying for a visa - that is what makes their entry ILLEGAL.

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to quote Sting, "i'm an alien, i'm a legal alien"
May 24, 2007 7:32PM PDT

are you saying that all ILLEGAL aliens entered the US without visas?

are the 1000s of people who entered on various temporary visas and stayed legal?


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Matter of fact Jonah ...
May 26, 2007 5:43AM PDT

at no time have I ever even hinted that ALL illegal aliens presently (or even formerly) in CONUS entered without Visas as just like any other program there will be a few who take advantage of a situation for their own benefit (after all, locks are mostly designed to keep honest people honest).

The number who overstay their Visa however is small and would be easily handled were it not for the millions who illegally enter without any Visa and who bog down the systems.

If you have an air matress and it has a small hole you can patch it pretty easily but if you have that same air matress and it receives a direct hit by a howitzer the patches just don't work.

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just a thought
May 27, 2007 1:16AM PDT
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Hint of Maple?
May 25, 2007 3:13PM PDT

JP, I have followed all the posts so far. I fail to see YOUR views.
You have just opened the door to discussions with a 'Hint of Maple.'
Care to contribute more. And please do not hold back on why Canada is a better country to live in and the immigration laws that Canada has.

I just returned from Brussels, Belgium, on a ten day vacation.
Brussels looks like the United Nations of people and customs in that city.
Just nice to see that in the center of Europe.

Your views concerning immigration and Canada?
How does Canada compare to other countries? Your views??

-Kevin

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(NT) By golly, I'll make them make it work?
May 28, 2007 10:48AM PDT

Dragon, Need more info from you as to how?
JP Bill has not explained his original post.
Waiting for updates.

-Kevin