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IE vs Flock

I started having problems with invasive pop ups and now IE is at the point where I almost can't use it. It freezes, creeps, errors every time I click on something and kicks me off etc. However, when I use Flock this does not happen since I'm a newbie to this sort of thing I don't understand what is going on. How can one browser be so horrible and the other work good on the same computer? Confused and unsure what to do. Got any advice?

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Malware Can Cause That Issue..

In reply to: IE vs Flock

Since you mentioned popups, please download Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware from Here

Double Click mbam-setup.exe to install the application.

* Make sure a checkmark is placed next to Update Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware and Launch Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, then click Finish.
* If an update is found, it will download and install the latest version.
* Once the program has loaded, select "Perform Quick Scan", then click Scan.
* The scan may take some time to finish,so please be patient.
* When the scan is complete, click OK, then Show Results to view the results.
* Make sure that everything is checked, and click Remove Selected.
* When disinfection is completed, a log will open in Notepad and you may be prompted to Restart.
* The log is automatically saved by MBAM and can be viewed by clicking the Logs tab in MBAM.

Extra Note:
If MBAM encounters a file that is difficult to remove,you will be presented with 1 of 2 prompts,click OK to either and let MBAM proceed with the disinfection process,if asked to restart the computer,please do so immediately.

Hope this helps and let us know how it goes.


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In reply to: IE vs Flock

Well, the long and short of it is that Internet Explorer has an extremely large number of security vulnerabilities that are routinely exploited to install spyware and other unwanted garbage onto people's computers. Which is why I recommend that people use it only as a last resort, and as sparingly as possible.

The main issue with Internet Explorer is ActiveX. In grand Microsoft tradition, it was a fantastic idea that was implemented so badly that it just boggles the mind. The problems with ActiveX are three fold. First, it's compiled code, so it's really not much different from any other program you run on your computer. Second, is the way Microsoft integrated the web browser into the operating system... None of which would be so bad if not for the third issue, in that Microsoft's development mentality is still stuck in the pre-Internet days when you didn't have to worry much about whether programs are remotely exploitable. Microsoft's usual development strategy is just to jam in as many new features as possible to every new version of a program. So, think of it like trying to write a couple million page research paper, full of references, foot notes, annotations, etc, and never once make a spelling, punctuation, citation, or any other kind of error. It's just not realistic.

Flock, and other browsers that aren't based on IE, have a number of things going for them. One is that they run like any other program, so it's much harder for them to trigger a total system compromise like IE can. Second, is that they have learned from Microsoft's many follies. Third, is that they were developed by companies that sprang up during the Internet age, so they don't have the same every computer is an island unto itself mentality Microsoft still does.

If I were to speculate a bit, I would say that Gates leaving Microsoft is the first step in a new renaissance for Microsoft. Once Ballmer is likely ousted for his rather unimpressive time at the helm of the company, and most of the "old guard" is gone... I suspect Microsoft will once again become a company known for putting out quality products at a reasonable price. They won't have to resort to illegal market manipulation techniques to prop up their products, they will be able to compete on merits.

Anyay to deal with some of the issues of your other post. Any time you're wondering about some program, type the name into Google and see what turns up. That should give you a good idea of whether or not it's a scam program or not.

I will let the die-hard IE fans who seem to enjoy living with the constant threat of malware explain the process of getting rid of the malware you've already picked up. What I will do, is share with you my rather simple method of avoiding these problems in the future.


The more of these suggestions you follow, the fewer problems you should have. Follow them all, and you've probably eliminated at least 95% of all potential problem sources.

Things you should NOT do
1: Use Internet Explorer
2: Use any browser based on Internet Explorer
3: Use Outlook or Outlook Express
4: Open email attachments you haven't manually scanned with your virus scanner
5: Open email attachments you were not expecting, no matter who they appear to be from
6: Respond to spam messages, including using unsubscribe links
7: Visit questionable websites (e.g. porn, warez, hacking)
8: Poke unnecessary holes in your firewall by clicking "Allow" every time some program requests access to the Internet
9: Click directly on links in email messages
10: Use file sharing or P2P programs
11: Use pirated programs

Things you SHOULD do
1: Use a non-IE or IE based browser
2: Always have an up to date virus scanner running
3: Always have a firewall running
4: Install all the latest security updates (the exception to the no-IE rule)
5: Delete all unsolicited emails containing attachments without reading
6: Manually scan all email attachments with your virus scanner, regardless of whether it's supposed to be done automatically
7: Copy and paste URLs from email messages into your web browser
8: Inspect links copied and pasted into your web browser to ensure they don't seem to contain a second/different address

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Wow and thanks I am so computer dumb I'm scared of myself. Until recently I was just using my computer for emails. However, I started taking surveys online and looking for ways to make money online and got sent to probably unsafe sites. Since I have no idea what I'm doing, I messed up of course. Now, I'm paying for it big time, duh! I am grateful for the information you gave me. I did download ADWare a free thing off of Cnet and Counterspy, that was 2 days ago. They have helped some but I still have tons of problems on IE. I downloaded Error Smart just yesterday thinking it would take care of IE problems. It helped some, I am not sure but it may be a scam. I got it as a 30-day trial. Flock seems to be working fine thus far, way better than IE. On your advice however I think I will give up on fixing IE and stay away from it, it was a bad habit. I didn't know any better and neither does other people like me that are computer dummies. My friends will not probably listen to me so I may print out what you wrote for them to read so maybe they will switch also. Thanks for the help, I was confused and wore out from fighting the IE war without weapons or knowledge.

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Just so you know

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Just so you know, even if you don't use IE, the malware you already have can and likely will still cause problems.

You will want to take care of the mess you already have, and then from that point on you can use my method to help avoid problems altogether.

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Will do and trust me when I say, will do. This ordeal has been really crazy and I'm wore out from stressing and freaking. Thanks again,

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