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IDE Harddrive Question

by M30rten / May 15, 2006 11:06 PM PDT

Hi Gang!
Have been extremely busy over past several years, totally ignoring advances in technology.
Now I find myself in need of a large IDE hard drive to go into my mid 1990s vintage computer - it was one of the first Athlon based machines built by IBM,700 mHz, running Windoze 98SE.
Now, I can not, for the life of me, find ANY new IDE harddrives of any size.
One of my friends told me that he THINKS that ''Serial ATA'' drives can be used on the IDE interface.
Is this correct??
Any help for this quandary will be appreciated, and I appreciate, in advance, any help or info that you can give me.

Ol' Ray - The Ignorant RedNeck

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What part of the world are you from?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / May 15, 2006 11:19 PM PDT
In reply to: IDE Harddrive Question

Here I see thousands of compatable parallel IDE (or PATA) drives at outpost.com, newegg.com, geeks.com and the list continues.

You may be in some odd place in the world without retail outlets, but BestBuy, Staples, OfficeMax/Depot all had PATA drives too.

Tell more about your area.

As to SATA, I'll write this is not a solution for you.

Bob

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IDE Harddrives...
by M30rten / May 16, 2006 4:10 AM PDT

Hi What part of the world are you from?
Well, I am from, and in, North Carolina...
Quoting begins:
You may be in some odd place in the world without retail outlets, but BestBuy, Staples, OfficeMax/Depot all had PATA drives too.
Quoting ends...

This past weekend, I went to 2 Best Buys...at one of which I was told that a ''Serial ATA'' drive would work on an IDE interface. Also went to a CompUSA, a Staples, and an Office Max.
None of the stores had a SINGLE IDE drive. The office supply stores gave me the ''dumb stare'' response when I asked about them, and the CompUSA folks told me that they were of the opinion that IDE was such ''an ancient technology'' that they probably couldn't get one.

So, in my part of the world - right now eastern NC, there seems to be little chance of finding a larger drive for my old computer...

Thanks for your reply!!

Ol' Ray - ''The Ignorant RedNeck''

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ATA = IDE
by ramarc / May 16, 2006 4:27 AM PDT
In reply to: IDE Harddrives...

you just need to look for PATA or Ultra ATA drives. SATA drives will not work with your PC. Here's a couple of sites that will clear up your confusion:
http://ata-atapi.com/
http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_IDE.html

Everybody carries Ultra ATA drives. I don't know why everyone gave you hard time. I suggest you go to the BB or CC site, and browse the hard drive section. Then you'll know what to look for when you're in the store, or just buy it online and pick it up at the store.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=5524373&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat33200050001&id=1051826249503

Because of the age of your PC, it may not know how to deal with large hard drives. If you still have your PC/motherboard manual, read it to make sure you have LBA or large disk support. Here's a site that go in-depth on this issue:
http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/hard_drives/drive_size_barrier_limitations.htm

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IDE = ATA
by M30rten / May 16, 2006 4:44 AM PDT
In reply to: ATA = IDE

Hi Ramarc!
Thank you so much for your reply!!!
You posted - Quoting begins -
"You just need to look for PATA or Ultry ATA drives. SATA drives will not work with your PC.
Here's a couple of sites that will clear up your confusion:
http://ata-atapi.com/
http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_IDE.html

Quoting ends...

That's the information that I needed, I do believe.
Again, thanks so much.

I suspect that my problem in the computer stores was that, it was on a Sunday, the stores were ALL extremely busy, and the folks that I "collered" to help me were NOT part of the "normal computer crew", and were just trying to help me out. The fellow that told me that a "serial ATA" drive would work for me told me that after he went and asked someone else. It might be he just misunderstood what he had been told.

Yes, I know about the limitation on harddrive size impossed by the engineering level of my old 'puter.
I can use up to a 100 gig drive, which is WAY, WAY more storage than I already have.

Thanks again!!

Ol' Ray - "The Ignorant RedNeck"

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Nope
by drat_ninny / May 16, 2006 4:56 AM PDT
In reply to: IDE = ATA

The mistake you made was assuming that an employee at one of these stores is going to know enough to be able to help you. Even Best Buy's much vaunted "Geek Squad" is far too often made up of some people who can barely do more than turn a computer on.

It's up to you to know what it is you're looking for because otherwise you might come home with a serial ATA drive that won't work with your computer unless you buy an additional add-on card.

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(NT) Sorry about that, chief!!
by M30rten / May 16, 2006 4:28 AM PDT

Mr. R. Proffitt
I am so sorry....
I frequent another forum, on another website most of the time, and it places the name of the replyer to a message FIRST in the reply...
Old habits took charge when I replied to your kind post to my inquiry.
I apologize profusely for "mis-naming you", and ask your forebearance from an ignorant old RedNeck...

Ol' Ray - "The Ignorant RedNeck"...

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