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I was flipping thru channels

by TONI H / November 3, 2009 8:09 PM PST

during the voting process last night and saw a short video clip of Pelosi speaking (it wasn't live and I can't recall which channel I was on at the time so don't have a link). It was a speech and not an interview about the Health Care Plan that she was trying again to make sound like such a grand thing.

One of her statements floored me...She said that with the public option ONLY 6% of the population would actually go into the program. If that's true, is over a trillion dollars (being collected up front for the next few years before ANY benefits are actually paid out) really worth this in order to cover ONLY 6% of our total population?

Why have this program in the first place unless the ultimate goal is to have years of paid-up-front premiums AND fines available to 'borrow' against to fund other projects or pay down the national debt with, much like the government has already done to Social Security and the State Lottery programs among other programs that are supposedly ear-marked for only specific purposes?

Wouldn't this ultimately go into the toilet just like those other programs that lose their reserve funds over time for other programs? The benefits for that 6% will never be anywhere near the amount the government will continue to collect which makes this health care program actually become the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow because it will be a total cashcow.

TONI H

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by TONI H / November 3, 2009 8:38 PM PST

No link yet since this was a live interview just shown on FoxNews, but evidently the current House Bill for this health care plan does away with the CHIP program that covers children for insurance. Doing away with this program completely, even tho Obama extended the program just a few months ago, takes effect in 2013 and literally forces these kids out of the only insurance program they have currently and makes the parents take on a private or public option insurance plan even if the parents are currently on Medicaid themselves with no extra money to purchase another plan to cover the kids.

This part of the health plan actually adds an additional $15B for that switch to take place to the cost of the plan that isn't being made public.

TONI H

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by Willy / November 3, 2009 10:52 PM PST
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I would suspect many of the separate or smaller health plans would "have to" consolidate in order to have the bigger yet better and/or more encompassing health plan. The whole idea is to place before the people that didn't anything or little more coverage and "yes" that don't have enough money would be covered regardless if optioned or not. The whole point was to bring on board all those that had little money or no insurance at all to use the new health plan. They were excluded or due to known conditions couldn't afford or option into a insurance plan that covered them. The figures as they stand now, say at least 20% of the US population has no insurance or coverage, maybe some clinic or small free care but nothing they pay for or they're simply are out of the loop. Now 20% of 250M US people means a whole bunch lack health care even under the simplest needs like dental, flu, or sniffles, etc.. Remember 6% if Pelosi is right will surely become more as time goes by. Of course its expensive, its "health care", jeezzzzz if the commercial health care is so expensive why wouldn't the new public health plan not be. I can only hope that once it gets reined in that costs will reflect their real range and not some pie chart figure. Let's not forget even those covered by their own private insurance is getting to a point that they won't be able to afford or very possibly include so much of their income they're forced to reduce coverage or start to forgo it to a lesser degree. Unions are fighting more for health care than wages. That companies are fighting to reduce their burden to carry it and/or drop it all together for workers, be it union or non-union. Even salaried employees are certainly feeling the pinch. -----Willy Happy

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