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Nov 14, 2003 5:47AM PST

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hush yo mouth woman, y'all ain't prejudiced.
Nov 15, 2003 9:49PM PST

according to this:
An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
A preconceived preference or idea.
The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. See Synonyms at predilection.
Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.
Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.
To cause (someone) to judge prematurely and irrationally.
To affect injuriously or detrimentally by a judgment or an act.

you meet none of the criteria!

you, out of love and caring for your children, made a decision - #If we keep our children away from bad influences including friends who we think are detrimental#
you didn't make it out of hate for any certain group - # I don't mind homosexuals as long as they stay away from me#

shootttttt woman, y'all as normal as me! Happy))

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Actually Jonah...
Nov 15, 2003 10:24PM PST

the negative connotations of the word prejudice are just another result of PC redefinition of a word.

As more and more people accept the current negative connotations they get farther and farther from the synonymity prejudice has always had with prediliction.

Prejudice can be an unreasoned pre-judgement or it can also be a well reasoned preference. That preference can be for or against ANYTHING.

I, for instance, have MANY close friends who happen to be black. I do not however believe in mixing of races so am prejudiced agains interracial marriage (interestingly so are most of my black friends).

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Re: it can also be a well reasoned preference.
Nov 15, 2003 10:41PM PST

#That preference can be for or against ANYTHING#

so so true Edward!

*and the remnants of good taste and modesty that i possess prevent me from giving a more detailed answer*

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Re:Actually Jonah...
Nov 17, 2003 12:30AM PST

Do you think mixed race marraiges should be illegal?

Dan

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Yes, as a matter of fact I personally do...
Nov 17, 2003 12:48AM PST

believe that mixed race marriages should be illegal.

Pity the offspring who belong to neither world.

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Envy those who belong to both.
Nov 17, 2003 2:09AM PST

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Can you name any who BELONG to both?
Nov 17, 2003 3:54AM PST

I strongly doubt it as both races involved tend to reject.

The same is found in even simpler animals who reject those who are different--it is a long established SURVIVAL trait.

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My nephews, for two.
Nov 17, 2003 4:09AM PST

Some segments of society have progressed beyond simple animals, apparently not all.

Dan

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I doubt that.
Nov 17, 2003 5:26AM PST

You are saying they have NEVER been "picked on" or ridiculed for being "different" and we both know better.

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Re:I doubt that.
Nov 17, 2003 5:59AM PST

Anyone who has NEVER (is your caps lock key sticky?) been picked on is probably a bully. Is any occurance of ridicule an indication that one has been rejected?

Everyone is different, Ed. We can't all contort our phyches, desires, beliefs, and skin colors to the Ed O'Daniel "one size fits all or you're a deviant" mold. Why would you want to live in such a world?

Dan

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Nice try at dissembling but...
Nov 18, 2003 2:26AM PST

you failed.

You did not answer the question asked (although you have previously indicated to James that one asks and the other answers in a conversation--something you want done but routinely fail to do yourself) because in all honesty you couldn't say "No they have never been picked on or ridiculed by anyone for their being multi racial." (and I think that under your "believe the liberal lie" exterior you personally don't want to do so except when parroting the party line as you can blame that lie on the party rather than yourself)

Again, I pity those who belong to neither.

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It was a poor question
Nov 18, 2003 2:46AM PST

Your phrasing implied that if they had ever, even if only once, been picked on because of their racial makeup that it would indicate a total rejection by whatever group claimed the person who had picked on them. That is just rediculous. My observation, and I'll discuss this with them when I see them over the holidays, is that they move with equal comfort in whatever environment they find themselves in. This takes into account, of course, the difficulties that any adolescent or young adult will have in even the most natural of environments.

Have they been picked on? Almost certainly given the obvious presence of the narrowminded in our midst.

Does this indicate that they've been rejected by one or both of the racial groups from which they hail? Not a chance. They may have been rejected by the narrowminded and racist as can be found in any group. No loss at all there.

Dan

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Re:It was a poor question
Nov 18, 2003 2:54AM PST

If the risk of social stigma is the concern, then maybe we should outlaw marriages between rich and poor. Think of the awkward dinner parties, and the social pressures faced by the children on the "poor" side.

Maybe people from New York shouldn't be allowed to marry people from New Jersey either. It would spare the families a lot of "what exit?" jokes.

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Stigma
Nov 18, 2003 3:37AM PST

Josh,

Doesn't it irk you when those social climbers and wannabes try to come in from New York and marry our nice New Jersey kids? Oh, well. I can't blame them for having aspirations.

Wink

Dan

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Interesting comments as I have often...
Nov 18, 2003 11:24PM PST

thought that people from New York city, New Jersey, Boston, Los Angeles, Chicago, Tampa, and DC shouldn't be allowed to marry at all which would have a positive effect on urban blight and ghetto dwellers not to mention taxation and social spending.

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Re:Interesting comments as I have often...
Nov 19, 2003 4:57AM PST

Actually Ed, you made a mis-assumption there, a strange one for you to make. If nothing else, your posts are normally exact.

"people from New York city, New Jersey, Boston, Los Angeles, Chicago, Tampa, and DC shouldn't be allowed to marry at all which would have a positive effect on urban blight and ghetto dwellers not to mention taxation and social spending"

Since when did having descendants necessarily require marriage? (irrelevant whether it should or not discussion).

Sure you didn't pick up someone else's rose color glasses by mistake and assume all offspring came from marriage? Wink

roger

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You are right Roger but...
Nov 20, 2003 1:13AM PST

i could try a Dave or Dan here and try to tap-dance out of it by saying that it would be the number who did not have decendants because they did believe in marriage woh failed to reproduce that allowed the total population to decrease to aleviate the problems mentioned.

I won't though as those are the very areas that have the highest incidents of single, never wed, multi child families so the number who do believe in marriage might not be large enough to accomplish any diminishing overall.

Thanks for pointing that out.

PS - I purposely posited another error in another thread that should have been jumped on IMMEDIATELY but has so far gone unnoticed although multiple responses have been posted. (you listening Charlie? Wink )

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Speaking for Dan
Nov 20, 2003 2:05AM PST

I refuse the bait.

Dan

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Continue to rationalize but...
Nov 18, 2003 11:20PM PST

wonder at racial preferences for racial purity.

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Racial purity is an illusion
Nov 18, 2003 11:26PM PST

It's a concept that holds no sway with me and less interest.

Dan

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Good for you (really!) but...
Nov 18, 2003 11:32PM PST

you are fortunately NOT universal man.

Unfortunately you exhibit moral values here that have brought this country to the point it is where one need not accept personal responsibility as long as they speak with political correctness and where violence is rampant and charity has to be ordered through taxation.

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Thanks
Nov 18, 2003 11:54PM PST

What does racial purity have to do with your non sequitur diatribe?

Dan

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Re:Continue to rationalize but...
Nov 19, 2003 9:14PM PST

Hi, Ed.

>>wonder at racial preferences for racial purity.<<
I certainly hope I misread what you;re trying to say, but fear I don't.
-- Dave K.
Speakeasy Moderator
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

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If you read ONLY what I wrote...
Nov 20, 2003 1:17AM PST

and did not try to read into it and remembered back to your early, mid, and advanced Biology courses then you read it right.

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Re: Nice try at dissembling but...
Nov 18, 2003 12:48PM PST

>>because in all honesty you couldn't say "No they have never been picked on or ridiculed by anyone for their being multi racial." <<

The existence of bigotry does not mean one should give in to it.
-- Dave K.
Speakeasy Moderator
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

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another interesting comment because...
Nov 18, 2003 11:28PM PST

as a very bigoted person you certainly attempt to sway people to your own predilictions.

Certainly you will not attempt to deny your own bogotry Dave?

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Re:Re:Actually Jonah...
Nov 17, 2003 5:58AM PST

I'm in a mixed-race marriage (my wife is half white, half-Hispanic), which makes my daughter a mixed-race child. No rejection by either family. Quite the opposite, thank you.

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Speaking from experience
Nov 17, 2003 6:03AM PST

It sure makes the family reunion photos interesting, doesn't it? Gotta love it.

Dan

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NT- Yepper, Normal is as normal does.
Nov 16, 2003 8:23AM PST
Wink
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NT- I want my bumper sticker to read! "Proud to be a Bigot, Thank God!"
Nov 16, 2003 8:21AM PST

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