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.....on their way from the US to Mexico city to protest this one:

MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- The Mexican government has issued a postage stamp depicting an exaggerated black cartoon character known as Memin Pinguin, just weeks after remarks by President Vicente Fox angered U.S. blacks.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/06/29/mexico.stamp.ap/index.html

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FYI Memin:

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A friend from El Paso Tx said her elementary schoolteacher used to call the kids ''pingos'' when they misbehaved [~ ''rascals''].

From the article: ''This is a traditional character that reflects part of Mexico's culture,'' Caballero said. ''His mischievous nature is part of that character.''
Absolutely true, which doesn't excuse any 2005 hurt feelings.

''However, Penalosa said many Mexicans still assume all blacks are foreigners, despite the fact that at one point early in the Spanish colonial era, Africans outnumbered Spanish in Mexico.'' [Emphasis added]
But ... weren't the Spanish and Africans all ''foreigners'' in that place and time?!
Regards, Doug in New Mexico

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(NT) (NT) Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton -- where are they? :)

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Maybe....just mayby....we should accept that not all

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the people of the world have the same notion of racism, bigotry, injustice, etc. as we do in the USA. Maybe we need to just let these things play out. We didn't always have the same understanding of such as we do now. We had to "discover" what were our mistakes. How about if we just let Mexico, and the rest of the world, make their own discovery as well. Only then, IMO, can attitude change really stick.:)

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You are correct,

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That's why it's ok to murder your wife in the Middle East if she looks at another man. It's just their way. We should accept it.

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So, what are our options in your example

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Of course I used the term "maybe" and not "clearly" and am referring to more benign issues but let's just take yours. I suppose we could find a way to threaten or take down a potential murdering husband and ourselves be "widow-makers". I have no qualm with taking extreme measures when we've taken good measurements first but, cliched as it sounds, true converts are only made by setting an example that makes someone want to be what they see as better than what they are.

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Good points!

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with the Constitution of Mexico, nor how it addresses its citizens.

My impression is that they have been plagued with poor government officials over the years, so that leads me to wonder how seriously the rights of some are taken.

We were the first to say that "all men are created equal", yet we know that some counted as only 4/5 of a man, which was later rectified. In my lifetime some states had poll taxes and other measures in place to deter some citizens from voting. That was rectified. Then with the Civil Rights Act they finally took their place at lunch counters, on the bus, and "Whites Only" and "Colored" disappeared. It took time, but as you said, we learned.

As to duckman's example, I abhor the practice, but I don't live there under their laws. Change, as we know it, involves replacing the grievance with something of value. I don't know what those who carry out the retributions would consider valuable. I heard that in Saudi Arabia change was promised over 20 years ago, which has never come.

Maybe our concern could be better spent looking at what could be done to break the cycle of prejudices being passed on to our children.

I agree that example is the best teacher.

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(NT) (NT) That's just chariming *sigh*

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