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Absolutely shameful

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Especially the guy who hung the Jesus banner in the locker room. He should know how many people have been scarred for life by just seeing one of those hideous things. The mental torture is something no one should have to endure.;)]:)

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You're joking, of course

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but do you feel this behavior is appropriate, if true?

Dan

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Fact is, 'the Lord has a plan for all of us'

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sounds pretty tame compared with "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition" or "Gott Mit Uns." Especially when both slogans were used while the sloganers were busy "preaching" to each other with napalm, frag grenades, .50 cal. water-cooleds and so on.
And they're all positively tame compared with Dan 2:44.
Regards, Doug in New Mexico, where the school kids start the day with pledges to two flags.

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(NT) (NT) BFHD

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rape out, jesus in?

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dammed if you do, dammed if you don't...


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With any kind of luck

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there is some middle ground between rape and forced religiosity.

Dan

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(NT) (NT) Don?t believe in God? Shouldn?t be an officer then.

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(NT) (NT) Why? What utter rubbish !!!

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(NT) (NT) You're kidding, right?

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(NT) (NT) Not kidding at all

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According to the people of this country

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anyone who doesnt profess a belief in 'the supreme deity', should never hold office in the congress or the Whitehouse.

When people say, "Anyone can be president", they are only talking about Christians.

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(NT) (NT) And just what people say that?

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at a guess, christians?

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i.e. not muslims or hindus


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(NT) (NT) Amen, brother...

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(NT) (NT) All Christians you say ?

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i didn't say ''all'' christians

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but you can assume that i did mean that ''all'' muslims or ''all'' hindus will never be president...


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Never say never

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They used to say the same about Catholics and divorced people. Depends on the person.

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Nonsense

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For one thing there are many Jewish officeholders. Oops! There goes that silly theory!

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Well, Jewish is close enough for Congressional work

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Dont think theyll vote for a Jew for President, yet. But theyll certainly not vote for an atheist, muslim or any other stripe for president.

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So you believe in the 2nd Amendment, not the 1st?

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Would you explain

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your reasoning for this statment, please? Its truth is not self evident.

Dan

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(NT) (NT) That's ridiculous.

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Yet another fundamentalist!

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Not very far from a Taliban's point of view. The difference is that the Taliban's wear a long beard and call God Allah (which is the Arabic name of him/her/it).

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And Taliban KILL people too

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that's a distinction you seem to forget.

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Well, Gearup...

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The chaplain preaching fire and brimstone is not that uncommon, as you wouldn't have to look far around here on Sunday mornings., or on TV.

As for the rest, IMO, the cadets are being prepared for war times as officers. Officers are the ones who say, "Follow me!" War is hell. Air Force personnel (as well a those from other services) have been POWs, many of which were subjugated to torture. They had to put up with a lot while keeping their focus.

Having to pray? Easy! Just bow your head and concentrate on your shoes, or the words to a favorite song.

A prayer is often offered before a mission. They had best get used to it.

Believe me - I do not support forcing one's brand of religion, or lack thereof. But if cadets cannot put such efforts in perspective, I wonder just what sort of officers they will be, especially in times of the stressful situations that arise in war.

They pay no tuition, just a promise to serve an x number of years following graduation. And they took an oath.

I have been to the Academy. The chapel is a beautiful building, and is ecumenical.

Angeline


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or the words to a favorite song.

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Happy

Amazing Grace? "Down to the River to Pray"...


jonah "wondering if born again christians have milk teeth" jones

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They can tolerate such

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mistreatment, but why should they have to and why should we subject them to it?

Surely we're better than that.

Dan

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"Surely we're better than that."

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You'd think so, but it sure doesn't seem like it.

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It's obviously time to saddle up, and roll

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the tanks into Colorado Springs. Those people are just too religious, and they won't keep it to themselves.

These are young men being trained to withstand the intense pressure of aerial combat are they not? Confident, with lightening reflexes, and a high level of intelligence. We've got to protect them from preachers? We've got to prohibit their officers from talking about the personal values that guide their lives? They can't think for themselves? They need a nanny?

There's more here than meets the eye IMO. No one should be forced to believe anything. I don't think that's been tried here, and it wouldn't work if it did. However, people must be free to exercise and express their beliefs. That's what the Constitution says.

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