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I have Ubuntu installed

by Ray Harinec Nov 6, 2006 7:42AM PST

on an entirely separate computer as the only operating system.

That system is not connected to the internet.

Want to download suitable versions of Firefox and Open Office to my Win XP computer and burn them to a CD for installation on the Ubuntu computer. I thought that I did that by choosing Linux versions to download and save. [Obviously, for Firefox I will eventually need to connect to the internet].

On the Ubuntu computer I can see the two folders on the CD, however I have no idea how to install the programs.

Looking at the CD with the two folders/files on the XP computer shows a winzip file. I can unpack them in the XP computer, however I seen none that say install or setup or any such things.

On the Ubuntu computer I see what seems to be the same files, but it seems that the section is for "extracting" [from the CD????]. When I try to extract the files I get the message that I do not have the permission needed top extract them.

Any ideas or guidance??

Trying to get basic familiarity with Linux without having to connect to the internet with the Linux computer.

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Ubuntu usually comes with those apps.
by r. proffitt Forum moderator Nov 6, 2006 8:33AM PST

Never had to install them.

Bob

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I noted that your Bid Daddy has them.
by Ray Harinec Nov 6, 2006 10:05AM PST

Never thought that Ubuntu might.

Won't get time to check for a day or two. Thanx.

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Which version?
by 3rdalbum Nov 6, 2006 5:31PM PST

Which version of Ubuntu is it?

If it's 6.10, it already includes the latest OOo and Firefox. If it's 6.06, then it has a recent OOo and Firefox 1.5.

When you are trying to extract the archives, are you doing it through the command-line or through the File Roller (Archive Manager) program? If the former, do the latter. If the latter, then make sure that you are extracting to your home directory.

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(NT) (NT) 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
by Ray Harinec Nov 7, 2006 3:22AM PST
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Get the right package
by drbigbyte Nov 6, 2006 8:23PM PST

Ubuntu does make it as easy as to install apps if you are online and getting online is not that difficult, especially if you have a router.
Anyhow when downloading these packages look for those with the .deb extension.
These are apps configured for Debian based systems of which Ubuntu is one.
Ubunti easily installs deb packages uing installers like Gdebi which you can find under the Gnome menu System Tools

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Don't get anything tar.gz for now
by benanzo Nov 7, 2006 1:33AM PST

I strongly advise you to not get packages that are tar.gz for a little while until you are more comfortable with installing them. Usually they are source packages but sometimes they are standalone binaries which just require the correct permissions to run and then they just run in place without installation. You really need to connect that bad boy to the internet and use synaptic to get all your software. That will be the easiest and will probably stave off your frustration.

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I read all the replies, I continue
by Ray Harinec Nov 7, 2006 3:25AM PST

to check periodically. Thanx to all and any future.

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Dumped Unbuntu and went to
by Ray Harinec Nov 7, 2006 9:31AM PST

Kunbuntu 6.10 Edgy. Basically because I liked the use of Bluish colors. I'm colorblind but do like things gray/blue/purple. LOL

I now realize I am where Microsoft was with DOS 1.0. To do extra things one had to get utility programs written by others such as print spoolers, sideways, etc. Any time one became a hit MS would add a copy type to DOS and the poor guy that developed the great utility was out of business or??? And virtually always, the MS version of the Utility was inferior to the original.

So now I look for open source utilities and can support them knowing that it will not be eaten up by a large company.

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Err....
by 3rdalbum Nov 7, 2006 5:51PM PST

You didn't need to switch to a half-different distribution just to get different colours, although if you like Firefox 2 the move to Edgy is smart (Edgy comes with FF 2). Kubuntu can be installed into Ubuntu with one command; no need to completely reinstall the operating system (the command is: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop").

To do extra things with ANY operating system, you have to get seperate programs; but Windows is especially bad for this. I'm glad you're enjoying Kubuntu!

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My Kubuntu 6.10 EDGY came with
by Ray Harinec Nov 9, 2006 3:24AM PST

Konquerer as the browser, or am I misunderstanding something?

I really did want Firefox, but can't say that I won't like Konquerer.

It'll be a while before I take Kubuntu on-line. Need to find a way to dump my perfectly working second computer, put the Kubuntu into a case and locate it in place of the older computer to have a neat setup.

The old computer is a P2-333. Works perfectly, but really has little value. I would be happy to give it to anyone that wants it. Would ship it to anyone COD if anyone would spend that money.

This post's purpose is re Firefox - Konquerer.

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Funny!
by 3rdalbum Nov 9, 2006 11:37AM PST

Strange, I always thought that Firefox was included with Kubuntu. It's not listed as a dependency of kubuntu-desktop.

Even so, Firefox is easy to install into Ubuntu. Just go to a terminal and type:

sudo apt-get install firefox

Easy stuff.

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Thanx. will do that when the
by Ray Harinec Nov 9, 2006 10:14PM PST

system can get on-line.

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Kubuntu+Firefox
by chuckieu Nov 11, 2006 1:13AM PST

In Ubuntu, Firefox is the default browser. Konqueror is still there and useful. I access my Windows partitions from it. In Kubuntu, Konqueror is the default, with Firefox available (I am assuming). Just add Firefox to your taskbar, top or bottom. Hope this helps. By the way, I also hated the brown on brown colors of Ubuntu, so I went back to Mandriva. chuck

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Thanks
by steve98664 Mar 18, 2007 12:04PM PDT

That was a great command sudo apt-get install firefox, but how did you know to use it? I'm guessing the software was here, you just gave me a command to install it...is that right? Do you know how to update Firefox? I'm looking for an update button or something in the Firefox software, but unlike firefox written for other OS's, there doesn't appear to be one.

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I'll explain
by 3rdalbum Apr 1, 2007 11:28PM PDT

I'll break the command down into parts:

sudo is the part of the command that tells Ubuntu that I want to run the next part of the command as the administrator. I'm installing a program, which requires administration access, so that's what that does.

apt-get is the actual program I am running. Apt-get is the basic package manager in Ubuntu and Debian.

install is a "parameter" that I am giving the apt-get program. Obviously, it's telling Apt-get that I want to install something.

firefox is what I want to install.

The software wasn't included on your disc or in the install you did. The command retrieved Firefox from the Ubuntu website and installed it automatically. Much easier than on Windows Happy

Generally, with Ubuntu you can't use that method to automatically update your software to new major versions. That is because Ubuntu's developers won't guarantee that a new major version of a main program won't cause some sort of breakage. Firefox for Linux does include a button to check for updates, but Ubuntu's developers have disabled it for the reason I stated above.

(Firefox 2 doesn't cause breakage, but it isn't really stable enough at the moment to be supported in a distribution designed for enterprise reliability).

You can install Firefox 2, either through downloading it from the Mozilla website or by installing the Version 2 package from this website: http://www.wildgardenseed.com/Taj/autopackage/

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Colors
by Sinopa Mar 31, 2007 5:29AM PDT

If you didn't like the brown on brown why didn't you just change your theme? Ubuntu has several different ones and you can customize your own as well.

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Didn't think that would change the splash screen colors.
by Ray Harinec Apr 2, 2007 2:20AM PDT

And I'm colorblind also. LOL

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