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I have had it with win 10

Jun 15, 2016 12:08AM PDT

I got caught with win 10 and came home and found it loading ok so I ran with it and it was good but slow for a couple of months, then my processor died and I did the upgrade to the hardware And now I have spent a week trying to find out why I have no sound or shut down
So I looked at my win 7 disc and thought stuff this rubbish I,m outa here. Im going back to 7 at least there is no probs with that and you can find stuff, without a tool to decipher all the stupid new terms in 10
Then after searching the forums it seems the only way to get rid of it is throw the HDD in the bin,

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Re: Windows 10
Jun 15, 2016 8:39AM PDT

What hardware did you upgrade? Did you install all necessary drivers for Windows 10?
And did you already find the Windows 7 drivers for your upgraded hardware. Otherwise it's quite well possible you don't have sound there either.

Removing all partitions from the HDD with your favorite partiotion manager suffices to install Windows 7.. No need at all to throw it in the bin.

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I'd go back to 7 for a reason.
Jun 15, 2016 8:55AM PDT

If your processor died there is a chance you are in license hell soon. The "upgrade" of a W7 to W10 may lock the OS to that motherboard so a lot of changes and the OS may not activate.

If the hardware changes are within 30 days I'd go back to W7 and get it all working then be very careful about W10 offers. READ THIS!!! Do not Cancel the W10 offer dialog box. It's programmed differently than all others I know of in that a click on the top right X results in an "OK,"

Let's not get sidetracked here. For me I've yet to find W10 autoinstall and don't want to waste time on that discussion. Moving on.

-> The most common failure post W10 upgrade or a new Windows installs are drivers and helper apps. Folks that don't install Windows often may get the drivers but not know about helper apps that turn on/off WiFi and more.

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had it with win 10
Jun 15, 2016 12:41PM PDT

I put a new processor, motherboard, and graphics card, got all the relevant drivers from the manufactures website. I,m sure there is a problem with the graphics card /motherboard path. In saying that win 10 wont let me install the realtek audio controller that the M/B uses and installs the HDMI off the graphics card as the source for sound instead of the M/B sound
all services say running and automatic.
I also put 8 g of ram in so I really want to go to 64 bit. I have the win 7 64 disc but I might try the win 10 upgrade to 64 and see what happens. I have sent all the data I want to save to flash drive
A mate of mine calls win10 ransomware, because it installed under stealth, and anything you want to do with it costs money. He ended up buying a disc to solve his problems

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Re: buying a disc
Jun 15, 2016 1:22PM PDT

Nowadays, discs for Windows 7, 8 and 10 are free to download from Microsoft. So buying them is not necessary.
However, you need a license code (or an earlier installation of Windows 10) to use them.

Post was last edited on June 15, 2016 1:28 PM PDT

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Exactly opposite here.
Jun 15, 2016 1:33PM PDT

I have yet to see a stealth install across hundreds of PCs. There are long articles about this and folks that write on web sites like Woodys and others seem to agree that it's a click on the top right X and it will install. MOVING ON.

What is this about anything you want to do costs money? Here my apps work great (better than under 7 or 8.x) and I use Ninite.com for more free apps.

-> What I'm running into all too often are folk that expected Microsoft to upgrade without ANY and I mean ANY need to go get a driver or app that turns on PC features. So far I've had to go get a few drivers (mostly touchpad, video, audio and the helper apps) but for me that's par for the course.

The issue of drivers has dogged Windows since the beginning.

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(NT) had it with win 10
Jun 17, 2016 1:56PM PDT
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had it with win 10
Jun 17, 2016 2:04PM PDT

Since I last posted I have done a full clean install and got all the drivers from the manufacturers. Now when I click speakers and playback there is no device installed When you go to services there is the audio and endpoint both running and automatic
Trouble shoot tell me there is a problem with either audio or endpoint.Device manger has no bad things
In troubleshoot it says that the drivers are located in Regestry log .reg I downloaded it from microsoft and it wont let me do anything with it as I dont have permission {i do} or a process is running to stop it Task manager says nothing that would be of concern

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And that's incomplete today.
Jun 17, 2016 2:16PM PDT

For example on a Dell I setup last week, not only drivers were required but a Dell app.

I fear that today's machines are getting too rough on their owners and Microsoft has done little to undo the driver/app issue in decades.

Maybe you should try an Apple?

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had it with win 10
Jun 18, 2016 6:03PM PDT

ok so as the clean install did not work ,while I had everything saved I did a clean install of win 7 64 bit
Now the reason for this is I have an identical computer running everything the same as mine, at my sons house The only difference is the video card. And that is a sweet machine. I built it about 6 months ago
So that tells me the problem is the video card

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Todays machines may not have W7 drivers.
Jun 18, 2016 7:34PM PDT

When you post, always include full make and model so folk can look for you.

As to the same, I come very close to W7 when I installed Classic Start and I didn't have to shell out another 100 for the W7 OS.

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had it with win 10
Jun 22, 2016 1:32PM PDT

so ok details gigabyte 970a d3p
nitro r7 360 graphics
8 g ram
amd fx4300 quad 8mb3-8 gprocessor
I bit the bullet and went back to micrsoft and the guy was real good He spent about 20 mins trying all sorts of things .in the end he said it was a strange one and said to get onto gigabyte
Did that and they sent me a nice piccy of the sound screen,And told me to reinstall the drivers, So at least I know what it looks like now
I took the graphics card out of the other machine
I have that is identical and it works fine in mine , still no sound So I found an old creative sound blaster card Installed that but windows will not detect it
I put the disc back in and it says all drivers installed, So I dont know any more

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I've run into such on Windows 3.0 to 10
Jun 22, 2016 1:45PM PDT

Driver hunts and such can be hard. Here I'm not there to check over everything so when a card is not detected I suspect motherboard chipset drivers are missing.

Remember that just like 1990 to today, Windows can show all is fine in device manager yet it's not.

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What does the label say?
Jun 22, 2016 2:02PM PDT

Since, you mentioned you swapped cards, then that suggests you have a card with a label/sticker on it? If yes, then the true model# is present because the chipset can vary from model to model. Of course, if you check the card in hand you should see what is present. That way you get the proper drivers and for the OS installed. Many times you need the full install s/w in order to best install all drivers required. Win10 being the newest OS may NOT support the older chipset on the card and fall out of support mode. When this happens and you've done the full inspection of what available at the card's makers support website, then you have an ophan card/device. The real solution then is to buy new/used but newer model card/device in order to be supported. Alas, some newer cards/devices if unpopular or not a big seller fail that way too, less support. I post this because you have the duty to see where this leads. The other posters offer good advice but you're there and it falls on you.

tada -----Willy Happy

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Drivers!
Jun 22, 2016 4:09PM PDT

A simple way to install the correct drivers is via a dedicated driver installer program.
Personally I use IOBIT Driver Booster which I purchased after having problems with Win10
being unable to install drivers or correct drivers. It became a pain in the backside trying to
find the correct drives from Microsoft and finding that the supposedly correct drivers would
not install.
I must say that I have never encountered this problem before from XP through to Win8.1
However IOBIT is fast and it works, well worth the price, saves an awful lot of wasted
downtime.
Phattdaddy

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Stay well away from IObit.
Jun 22, 2016 4:15PM PDT

No mods here will recommend it. Often does more harm than good. Drivers should be gotten from the makers site.
Dafydd.

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One of the horrible things on the web today.
Jun 22, 2016 4:32PM PDT

The only reason I like IObit is that it keeps a few friends in the chips and well fed. That is, they get to recover PCs cracked up over its use.

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Driver helper s/w
Jun 23, 2016 1:42PM PDT

I strongly suggest any user to stay away from so-called driver update/searcher s/w as most are backdoor nuisance efforts. They install unwanted PUP's or even downright malware. While they may do the job at hand they bring too much baggage and gum-up the works. While some maybe innocent, others quickly shed their sheep coats and become wolf they are, so aware.

good luck -----Willy Happy

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driver help
Jun 23, 2016 3:35PM PDT

The thing to remember On the net, nothing is free. These sites always get something from you. they load on malware with the software or tracking software
The only place to go is the manufacturer site, You have paid the premium for the software/hardware, and if they want to keep you loyal to their brand , they should give you the help for free, Without any fishhooks attached, plus you get the latest drivers ect

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had it with win 10. Solved
Jun 23, 2016 8:04PM PDT

After all the hassles and searching for drivers ect and the brilliant help from this forum>
I bit the bullet and went back to my supplier and said this board must be faulty
They sent a replacement overnight and I installed it this morning, Booted up and waited with baited breath for the red cross to go from the speakers YES all is well Then the shutdown test and YES it shut down on its own
So what did I learn from this, On the odd occasion the new product has problems
I have installed a lot of boards and this was the first that did not respond when the disc was loaded with all the things working.