I had an issue with Windows 10.

May 30, 2017 5:10AM PDT

The symptoms were the 1. updates wouldn't finish 2. Windows mail didn't retrieve messages 3. I could access the store but wouldn't download. 4 Office products started with message to repair a file then it would run.

Solution: I ran the troubleshooting and it ran all night. I woke up in the AM and restarted and everything was back to normal. I was like Windows 10 wouldn't allow me to write to files or the SSD.

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Which Items Under "Troubleshoot" Did You Run?
May 30, 2017 1:22PM PDT

I'm assuming you're referring to the section under 'Settings-Update and Security-Troubleshoot'. If so, then there are a lot of sections for Troubleshooting there. Which one/s did you run?

Just curious.


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Updates were not working
May 31, 2017 4:50AM PDT

so I selected Windows update.

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May 31, 2017 9:42AM PDT

Strange that it took all night to run the "fixes" but that's the way it goes, I guess.

Thanks again.


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Updates are taking longer and longer.
May 31, 2017 10:31AM PDT

I had some older Dell i5 laptop with a HDD. It took 2 days to do all the updates last month when the creator's update rolled out.

I should have installed the SSD before this but I was in no hurry and let it run for 2 days checking its progress when I came by the test bench. Later we cloned the HDD to SSD and what a difference.

I can't imagine what folk are thinking about Microsoft (well, I do know.)

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still sounds like a beta version,...
May 31, 2017 3:18PM PDT

...not an LTS,or RTM quality yet.

LTS (Long Term Service)
RTM (Release To Market)

If I'd not already left Windows for another OS, that would do it! Besides those who left to Linux distros, I wonder how many windows users still refuse W10 to continue using versions like 7 and and earlier.

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I'm agnostic on this.
May 31, 2017 4:01PM PDT

But since the apps I wrote over the years are on PalmOS, Windows (XP and beyond), Windows Mobile/CE and now Android, Windows continues to work for me and bring in the dollars.

Linux is nice and all, I use it and have made big money fixing apps on Linux but it's been too spotty to go all in. Linux here continues to be in a VM (VirtualBox) when I need it.

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but this isn't about apps per se....
Jun 1, 2017 6:49AM PDT

It's about the Operating System itself working properly, and TIMELY.

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It's all about time and money.
Jun 1, 2017 7:21AM PDT

If I was to move to Linux I'd spend my time trying to find ways to get things to work rather than getting to work.

Yes I do boot a live Linux almost weekly to help others recover stuff but as a full time OS it would drain my time.

Linux is great stuff, but like a set of tools, not the right one today outside of a VM.

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I'm a w7 holdout
May 31, 2017 6:21PM PDT

I could not see anything in w10 I wanted/needed and I was not thrilled about what comes close to spyware that msft uses with w10.

Also the maker of this machine does not show support for w10.

In about 2.5 years, if the machine last that long, it will be time to go shopping.

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Most of the OEM's have always
Jun 1, 2017 4:05AM PDT

showed better support for a new OS with current and future machines over machines that came out with older OS's installed.

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Indeed, longer and longer...
Jun 3, 2017 2:52AM PDT

Agree with you there, Bob, a friend in the UK said his Creators done online took around 8 hours on a year old desktop with an AMD A8000 quad on spinning rust. Since the best Telstra can do for my broadband here is 1.5 to 4.5 Mbps (ADSL2+), I do all the major updates from a downloaded DVD. The Creators download took 2.5 hours, half an hour to burn and verify to DVD but then the actual update for Creators only with nothing else, took 35-40 minutes on a Core 2 Duo at 2.53 GHz on an Intel 128 GB SSD. Then I pass the DVD round to the family members who run Win10.

I only have the 10 machine for "Family help", I kept 7 for the stuff I need to do on Windows, despite James' enthusiasm, there are things Linux won't do! My primary personal machine is OpenSuSE Leap 42.2 and updates to that are quick, done in the background and don't need reboots.

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