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I can not write WAN ...

by Melati Hitam / April 2, 2005 1:28 AM PST

That star is WAN = Whisky Alpha Tango

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(NT) (NT) The automatic censor is working.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 2, 2005 6:08 AM PST
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(NT) (NT) Ok, by the way I wrote W A N not W A T... my mistake...
by Melati Hitam / April 2, 2005 1:11 PM PST
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(NT) (NT) What is W AN? Why is it censored?
by ChuckT / April 3, 2005 3:30 AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) To stem the tide of Free PSP and Ipod posts.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 3, 2005 5:31 AM PDT
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huh? I am still missing the point. Sorry.
by ChuckT / April 4, 2005 3:55 AM PDT

Sorry, Bob,
But since I have never looked into any of those "free" offers, (I know they never are free) I am still missing the point.

I realize that somehow W AN is somehow tied into either the URL or titles of those websites, but I'd like to hear how.

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The filters are still being fine tuned so hang in there.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 4, 2005 10:21 PM PDT

As to you not looking at the free psp and ipod offers, that's great but would you want to be here if the forums were filled with free ipod responses?


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you're still missing my question, my point
by ChuckT / April 5, 2005 3:49 AM PDT

Yes, I understand that W AN is somehow related to those iPod websites.
No, I would not want these boards to be filled with such offers of free whatevers.

I am asking, how is it that W AN, or now the recently discovered H EE related to such spam?

Is it a part of the URL? which part?
I don't go to see those "free" websites, so I am unfamiliar with how those 3 letters are connected.

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by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 5, 2005 11:32 PM PDT

The filters are a work in progress. I appreciate what they do and take the bad with the good since I haven't seen the flood of spam since they kicked in.

However it has created discussions like this one.


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and so, what is ...
by ChuckT / April 6, 2005 3:38 AM PDT
In reply to: Chuck,

I don't disagree with filters.
I'm just asking, because I a curious,

what is w an?
what is h ee?
what is d ark?

How is it that those character sequences appear in URLs (if that is where they appear) in any proliferation? What sort of examples? I can't say that I have ever seen URLs using those character sequences. At least nothing comes to mind.

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by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 6, 2005 11:23 AM PDT
In reply to: and so, what is ...

Lee explained below. Why isn't this acceptable?


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this is not that
by ChuckT / April 7, 2005 4:47 AM PDT
In reply to: Chuck,

It isn't "acceptable" because it doesn't answer my honest question.

There has not been an explanation of why W AN, H EE or D ARK are censored; only that they are.

Lee has said that some words are censored "probably by a function of the Regular Expression Filter". That is the method of which they are censored, not the reason.

You have said that the reason was "To stem the tide of Free PSP and Ipod posts"
I asked how does it do that? How is it that those characters are in any way related to Free PSP and Ipod posts.
(Why not just censor PSP or iPod?)

I asking for an explanation; not to stop the filtering, not to disagree with the rational, not to create an argument; I only wanted to learn how they relate. Bob, you seem to only want to answer with 'because it does'

OK, forget it!
It does. It does. It does.
Darn the reason, it just does.

I will ignore the man behind the curtain.

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Here is some clarification Chuck
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / April 7, 2005 10:16 AM PDT
In reply to: and so, what is ...

Recently we implemented a new way of filtering profanity in the forums... and until a legitamate word gets filtered out and reported to us, we won't know about them.

"wa n" was filtered because of "w a n g"
"dar k" was filtered because of "dar ky"

The words on the left shouldn't have been caught by the filter. But for some reason it picked it up, so we had to do a slight tweak to the filter to allow those legitimate words to pass.

I hope this satisfy your curiosity Chuck, just please don't adk me to explain words on the right mean. Grin

We have these fixes in place already and just waiting for fixes to get deployed to live site.


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Thanks Lee
by ChuckT / April 7, 2005 12:19 PM PDT

So, it has nothing to do with PSPs or iPods!
That was why I couldn't see the connection.
See, I understand a vugarity censor.

I guess that means I can't say **** ******* * *** **** *** ***. ****** ** ***** ***** *** ** * ****!

Darn! Grin

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by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / April 7, 2005 10:24 PM PDT
In reply to: Thanks Lee

It's also part of the same filter and the effects I've seen are on the free psp/ipod/other posts. However if you hang in that other forum, maybe it would kick in more there?

I only write from my perspective and appreciate the filters along with the warts.


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That means however, that...
by Edward ODaniel / April 7, 2005 12:30 PM PDT

if someone was having a problem with their ImageVue application wamgimg.exe (w a n g img.exe) which is a product of W A N G it might be difficult to offer them understandable assistance.

It would also make it difficult to discuss old computers one has had as one of mine was a (yep, you guessed it) WANG Professional Computer, an 8086 that I had in 1986.

Wang Laboratories has long been a respected name in the computer, calculator, and monitors industry (although they did file for bankruptcy and get aquired by Getronics somewhere in the early to mid 1990s).

The second one by being filtered may well affect the ability of those in the Virus forum as someone may actually have a problem with BAT/darky.A or BAT.darky and it is really difficult to offer removal instructions for a problem you can't read--even when the instructions are at hand.

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It probably something in the regular expression filter
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / April 5, 2005 5:25 AM PDT

that's filtering out W AN. I'm having one of the engineers look into what's causing it. I apologize for the inconvenience.


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(NT) (NT) Got it--I'll report this.THanks!
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / April 4, 2005 2:31 PM PDT
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Lee, Here's Another One...D_A_R_K
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / April 5, 2005 8:15 AM PDT

Typing those four letters together comes up with:



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Got it that should be fixed with tomorrow's forum updates
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) CNET staff/forum admin / April 6, 2005 6:49 AM PDT


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