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I am listening to "Revolver" by The Beatles

May 11, 2006 12:32AM PDT

And I have to say it is the best album that they made! What a great experimental album. I just listened to "I'm only sleeping" and "I Love you to". Really good!

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What's odd about "Let it Be -- Naked" is......
May 11, 2006 11:16PM PDT

.....that perhaps the most eagerly anticipated track was the de-Spectorized version of The Long and Winding Road, which had previously only been available on bootlegs. I was very surprised when I first listened to "Let it Be -- Naked" and realized that the version on that album is a different recording entirely -- Paul's vocal is noticeably different. While interesting, it didn't really fulfill that long-held desire.

Taste is subjective and there's no accounting for Duckman's post other than to think that maybe he's just being contrary. My personal favorite depends on what mood I'm in. I've always loved the Hard Day's Night album.

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(NT) (NT) Check Past Masters Vol 2, I think its there.
May 11, 2006 11:55PM PDT
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Thanks Rob
May 11, 2006 11:56PM PDT

It may also be on the Anthology; I'll have to look. I have it on a bootleg and the audio quality isn't too bad.

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Previously only been available on bootlegs...
May 12, 2006 12:10AM PDT

I am pretty sure that version was released as a 45 with the non-Spector "Get Back" on the other side long before the "Let It Be" album came out. Memory is hazy but I seem to remember having that 45, or my brother did.

Maybe theres's a way to look it up?

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The Get Back single....
May 12, 2006 1:09AM PDT

...(which I have) has Don't Let Me Down on the B-side.

AFAIK the non-Spector version of The Long and Winding Road existed only on bootlegs for decades. I know the Spector production was a big sore point for Paul who supposedly hated it, though some people in the Beatles' circle say he heard it and approved it before it was released and only expressed distaste for it when critics made comments about the arrangement.

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Hmmm.
May 12, 2006 1:15AM PDT

I know I heard the non-Spector version of The Long and Winding Road somewhere, and not on a bootleg. Could there have been another single?

Like I said, memory is hazy, but I am pretty sure.

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It's gotten some radio airplay over the years
May 12, 2006 1:22AM PDT

The ''right'' radio station may have gotten their hands on it and maybe that's how you heard it (?)

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(NT) (NT) Possibly
May 12, 2006 1:30AM PDT
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quite comprehensive discography here
May 12, 2006 4:28AM PDT
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Shows The Long and Winding Road/For You Blue as a single..
May 12, 2006 10:47PM PDT

but that's the Spector version and the date is too late for what I remember. Maybe Josh is right.

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What's the purpose of this thread Josh?
May 12, 2006 12:27AM PDT

We all know that Terry likes the Beatles and Dylan, and you and Rob share that taste in music. Been discussed over and over and over. So if those of us that don't much care for that music post to the contrary, it's no different.

IMO, there's nothing special about anything the Beatles put out. Dylan may have some good lyrics but he is just unlistenable. IMO, of course.

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Same as any other thread, Evie: Discussion
May 12, 2006 1:12AM PDT

If you don't like the Beatles then I suggest you don't participate in the thread.

There are plenty of discussions here in which there is general agreement among those participating. That doesn't make those discussions any less "purposeful" than others.

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(NT) (NT) And counter opinions are just as purposeful
May 12, 2006 1:13AM PDT
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So express them then
May 12, 2006 1:24AM PDT

But saying the thread has no purpose just because you don't happen to like the Beatles isn't the same as participating in the thread and expressing your opinions.

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*sigh*
May 12, 2006 1:25AM PDT

Let me re-word. The thread has no more purpose to it that Duckman's response.

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Then participating in it is a colossal waste of time for you
May 12, 2006 1:29AM PDT

...and I suggest you move on to "more purposeful" threads and leave us to our discussion, which has purpose to us.

Ciao.

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Dylan is pretty close to the verge of intolerable
May 12, 2006 9:38PM PDT

though others have done good work with his songs. I occasionally refresh my memory, but its really just that, refreshing my memory from when I was younger and more tolerant.

Leonard Bernstein was a big fan of the Beatles and would often regale people with reasons why they were not merely good, but superior musicians and lyricists. Now I don't know if Leonard Bernstein is your glass of tea either, but there are some serious musicians who were impressed by the development shown by the Beatles.

I like almost everything, though much of current Country is a fairly closed book to me, a lot of female country singers (no, not Shania Twain, though they did love her over in England when we were there) people like Alison Krause and Mary Chapin Carpenter and Shawn Colvin and the like I enjoy, I love playing Old Timey and Bluegrass. Otherwise its Rock, Jazz, Early Music, Baroque, less so the conventional Classical repertoire, World Music Folk of the Traditional as well as the Singer-Songwriter variety, and almost anything else. I even like my son's listening material which surprises the hell out of me since so much of the music directed at the youth market is so dreadful in my opinion.

What excites you Evie? I'm honestly curious, and try never to put anyones taste in music down, though my wife may dispute that, because there are things she listens to that I'm not partial to.

To me now, Jazz is the ultimate. Superb musicianship and understanding of music theory combined with the pipeline into the unconscious that is improvization. I'm so glad its on the resurgence with young players. There's a young Toronto piano player called Tyler Urema who has a piece called Stride that could stand with all the greats of the 20's and 30's like Fats Waller and James P Johnson, though nobody could equal Art Tatum for sheer brilliance.

Anyway, to return. Would you mind sharing with us the music that excites you. I'm interested (in a good way Wink )

Rob

To all others, How about Terry Riley?

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get 'Down from the mountain'
May 12, 2006 11:00PM PDT

the original singers from 'Oh Bro where art though'. Great blue grass ensemble. I found dvd at netflix. Krause, et al.

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(NT) (NT) Got it thanks, and delightful it is too. Rob
May 14, 2006 12:05AM PDT
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From what I have heard
May 12, 2006 3:41AM PDT

"de-Spectorized version of The Long and Winding Road".

The version on "Naked" is actually the version Paul wanted on the original album. But that it was John who wanted to add the big orchestra sound to it. Whether that is right or not, I'm not the one to tell, but I thought I'd mention it at least.

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It's a different take
May 12, 2006 4:36AM PDT

It's not the same performance; they apparently recorded it more than once.

The "official" story is that the Beatles were so displeased with the entire Let it Be experience that they just forgot about it until after Abbey Road had been recorded. They they handed the tapes over to Phil Spector and told him to "just do something with them." Allegedly none of the Beatles had anything to do with any of the orchestration.

The "naked" version of Across the Universe is really beautiful, IMO the best track on the album.

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Thanks for the trip
May 13, 2006 1:37AM PDT

down penny lane. I was in HS when the beatles invaded(invasion was ok back then), and the beach boys were our band. the beatles wiped them off their boards and almost off the charts. we had huge beatles vs stones debates. beatles changed the pop culture because they evolved and revolved. stones were the tough street wise hoods with axes. polar opposites. we danced and tripped to both. "those were the days my friends".

learned lots about the naked beatles here, I only remembered naked john & yoko. thanks for blowing the dust of the present times. I'm humming the old tunes and looking for pepperland.

don't let the revolution end.

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(NT) (NT) Bet you just LOVE "Taxman"!!
May 13, 2006 9:55AM PDT
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Absolutely! And excellent popsong!
May 13, 2006 10:01AM PDT

There are few songs by The Beatles that I don't like Evie. Also The Jam made a good song called "Start" that had the same bass riff as Taxman.

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But Taxman is an anti-taxation song !!
May 14, 2006 12:10AM PDT

"Should 5% appear too small, be thankful I don't take it all." "... for those who die, Declare the pennies on your eyes"

Last line, "and you're working for noone but Me."

Rob

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WOW
May 14, 2006 1:06AM PDT

I was going to google the lyrics. Thanks for providing them for me.

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Why would you?
May 14, 2006 1:09AM PDT

You already said that it was the worst album ever made.

Ah, I'm out of this thread for now...

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I think the point is...
May 14, 2006 1:24AM PDT

seems like the opposite of your philosophy.

That's okay. I disagree with the stupid politics of most popular musicians, actors and other artists. Most of them are completely clueless politically. But it doesn't stop me from enjoying what they create. When they start preaching they often make asses out of themselves (Neil Young springs to mind) and then I tune them out.

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(NT) (NT) No, that wasn't the (my) point there
May 14, 2006 3:20AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Rob's though, I think.
May 14, 2006 3:33AM PDT