I am listening to "Revolver" by The Beatles

That implies that you think that the White Supremacist music is better. Do you really think ANY of Johnny Rebel's songs are better than ANY song by The Beatles or Bob Dylan? By saying that Revolver is "the worst [album] ever made other than ANY Bob Dylan crud" you ARE saying that Johnny Rebel is better/less bad...

Who is Johnny Rebel??? What is White Supremicist music???

Taste in music is very personal. I'd just leave it at that.

considered a masterpiece, both in its writing and in its experimental recording. Just curious, what would you suggest as a contender for Best album ever?

The Romans, who pioneered so much, had a phrase for this problem: De gustibus non disputandum, There is no disputing about taste (Its too personal and complex an issue).

Rob

... the ''experimental'' nature of the album either doesn't appeal to some, or largely escapes others. I suppose this is where the Beatlelites will go on and on about how the vast unwashed just don't get it, but it is really where I come from.

I can't be sure, but I actually think I OWNED Revolver on LP. Most of my LP's were absorbed into my brother's collection when I went off to college, but rest assured that the cassette mixes of the Beatles were standard fare and well worn cassette tapes in my dormroom ''boombox''. I've replaced a large portion of my LP's with CD's over the years. The Beatles never made the cut, and, honestly, I just don't miss them.

There are probably far more people like me of my generation that feel this way about the Beatles than will please the Beatlelites around here. I've never understand the degree to which some here seem to consider it blasphemy of some sort to not worship every ''masterpiece'' ever produced by this group.

Consider if you will that many ''firsts'' weren't necessarily the best. One can count to their credit the numbers of acts that duplicated and built upon concepts they may have tried first, but when the results are so much better, it seems odd to me to return to listening to the inferior predecessor.

Yellow Submarine? Doctor Robert (aka ode to John's dealer)? Look at the lyrics of EVERY song on that album with the notable exception of Eleanor Rigby (which I cannot have an objective opinion on having to sing it overr and over and over too many times in chorus). For the rest, those that aren't drug induced boil down to nothing more consequential than much of the ''bubblegum'' rock of the '80's and early 90's. And, IMO, the ''bubblegum'' rock compares favorably to it -- the musicians in many of those acts make the Beatles look like the garage band that they were. Def Leapord's Rick Allen plays "drums" better with one arm than many with two, Richie Sambora of Bon Jovi (poor Angeline almost got her head handed to her once for merely stating that she tapped her foot to a song by this band!) is probably one of the most underated guitarists, Asia had Steve Howe, Van Halen was, well, Van Halen, just to name a few of so many ... and that's just the ''bubblegum'' acts that get very little respect by those who would beatify the Beatles if they believed in such and could!

Taste is indeed personal. I read the glowing reviews of Revolver and can't help wondering -- ''what are they smoking''?

It's not discarding the old and unfamiliar either. Other acts of the era are well represented in our collection.

I think (Josh can correct me if necessary) that it was about a dentist that they or maybe only John had that did give them/him LSD. It's not any propaganda for LSD. "She said, she said" I believe is what somebody ran around saying ("I know what it is like to be dead") at a party where Peter Fonda was too. If it was PF I am not sure about. But I'm sure Josh has the facts straight.

... him with drugs. Is there anything special about that song?

You have already stated that you see no reason for this thread to even exist. So, I guess you don't have any interest in music history and that's fine. Some people like NASCAR, other's the PGA and there are those who like NBA and those who like all above and music history too! This thread is obviously not for you. See ya in another!

... I was responding to Josh's swipe at duckman for the "purpose" of his posted opinion.

Why does it bother you guys so that some don't share your opinion?

Hooey on the music history nonsense. Who gave John the drugs he was tripping on is hardly worthy of "historical study". You guys take the ramblings of drugged out musicians way too seriously. Enjoy their music if you do, don't try to make too much out of the rest. If I did that with every artist I like I probably wouldn't listen to much at all. There are very few songs where the history behind them is of interest (Fire and Rain by James Taylor being an example), but just as many that once you know they aren't so enjoyable anymore.

A way for some people to reminisce.Yes,just like all aspects of life,music is a personal preference.


As for some of it being bubblegum,sure,I suppose some of it was(not all of it though),or is it that people grown with more with complex tastes.


If your going to seek music with a history based subject,well then,whats the sence.Music like other forms of entertainment is for enjoyment,and I guess in some instances an escape.

IMO,I beleive that Lennon was the best lyricist ever.


Tom

If not the best, one of them Tom! He wrote some lyrics that may seem strange to many, but when you go deeply into them there are so many images that he managed to give the listener and that IMO is what a good song writer is about.

... what I do have a problem with is that over the years here in SE some get positively offended if someone else doesn't share their opinion of the Beatles.

If I were to list some of my more obscure favorites here, I'm sure after ''who?'' the next question would be ''why?''. Maybe some people might even laugh at my choices. It wouldn't matter to me, I would still like those songs for the same reasons I liked them before. I don't understand the defensiveness here.

There are some Beatles songs I enjoy and have reminiscing qualities to them. I don't mean to imply that I dislike them entirely. But I do wonder if an alien came down to the planet obviously not knowing that Revolver was supposedly one of the ''greatest albums ever'' would the alien think it was after sampling a variety of music? I personally don't think so.

JMO of course! {and nothing else matters ...}

Evie

"Why does it bother you guys so that some don't share your opinion?"

Who mentioned anything like that? You say "you guys" and I take it you mean those of us who do like what The Beatles did. Where did I say it? Josh?

... contrary opinion on the Beatles (or Dylan) speaks for itself.

I couldn't stand the Beatles or ANY of their "music" I was 16 when they came on the scene and could never get into what they did I actually broke my brother in laws 45 of I want to hold your hand!!! If I had to listen to it one more time I think I would have broke his head!! LOL

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That hurt!!!! LOL!

of the ones that like The Beatles has even mentioned Dylan forst of all (although I thin he has dome heck of a lot for the modern music and the poetry).

""Why does it bother you guys so that some don't share your opinion?"

Second: Who mentioned anything like that? You say "you guys" and I take it you mean those of us who do like what The Beatles did. Where did I say it? Josh?

If you can't back it up, take it back!

and you would best 'back off'....

read her posts and see what she based her "you guys" on...


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Do you like music only because the majority likes it? I'm willing to bet the majority doesn't care much for Dylan. Or any single act for that matter ...

Like a weather vane.

I personally think it's futile and pointless to argue about music. Everyone thinks their taste is absolutely impeccable and the other guy's is supect at best.

I have been known to drive my car with Rimsky Korsakov blasting out the windows. Now THAT's rock!

... probably think her XYZ (have no idea how many or the names of her albums ) is her best.

but, not one of her half dozen or so albums has been the cause of a 'divide' amongst her fans, something that both the beatles and dylan managed to do....


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Is that like a Super Mini-mart?