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Rant

HP warranty scam

Mar 5, 2015 10:35PM PST

Having had my shiny new HP laptop only 6 weeks to have a hard drive failure was disappointing, but HP were quick to repair it. The problem comes when you try to recover your data. HP will only give you back the old failed drive if you pay them the full price of a new one. This is clearly just a way for them to make customers pay for their own warranty costs. In reality it will cost HP to dispose of the old drive so they could give it back to their customers and still be better off. They argue that after a warranty repair the old parts belong to them, however they don't own my data which is on the drive. Is that theft?

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Re: scam
Mar 5, 2015 10:49PM PST

You would have to read the small print to say what it says about data on a hard disk and the property rights on broken parts. What do they say?

It's a good example of what we say here: "You only lose what you don't backup." It's so easy to copy your own new and changed data to a USB-stick or an external hard disk a few times a week, that there is no real excuse for not doing it.

Kees

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No.
Mar 5, 2015 10:54PM PST

Data safety has been an issue with PCs for decades. It's our responsibility to backup data. If you need to do data recovery before sending it in, you get that done first.

Simply no, it's not a scam. There are folk that have tried to talk it up as a scam before but they are wasting their time. If you need the data, copy it out before you send it in.

---> Be aware that any number of trojans, malware and RANSOMWARE ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ransomware ) means we have no choice but to backup what we can't lose.
Bob

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Repair and recovery are two different items
Mar 5, 2015 11:20PM PST

I get this all the time and "recovery" is far more expensive and time-consuming than a typical repair. Your data is yours, protect it, that's *YOUR RESPONSIBILITY*. Once a repair is done, that's as far as any warranty usually covers unless so "stated". If so stated, you're paying extra and that's not some extended warranty it has to state actual "data recovery/retrieval". Guess what, typical warranty in the fine print or when you brought it doesn't offer any data protection/recovery in whatever wording they use. These are two different items and repair to get your PC, up and running again is just that. As for returning the bad HD back, that's std. practice as the dead HD is either rebuild(refurb) or chucked for parts/disposed properly in order to cycle HDs out or replace stock. Replacement HDs aren't always new, but certified good HDs for repair warranty re-issue NOT for total new builds.

tada -----Willy Happy

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Missing the point
Mar 6, 2015 10:07AM PST

My issue is not about data recovery. I know it's my responsibility to look after my own data. The issue here is that HP want to charge me the cost of a new drive for one that doesn't work. Doesn't that feel wrong?

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You feel wronged.
Mar 6, 2015 10:13AM PST

That's what I'm reading. I've seen this complaint before so why not just get your own replacement drive? Just last month a 500GB laptop drive was under 50 so if cost is the issue, you can do better.
Bob

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You want it all...
Mar 6, 2015 2:17PM PST

That's not going to happen having a new HD and keeping the old. That's their way of controlling the repair, not really to save costs but proving you had a bad drive. Think about it, you keep the old drive and have to pay for a new drive, in effect just like buying from any where else. You're not paying for a new HD once you swap bad for new. I don't see upon your skillset, then upon having the bad HD in hand, mount it elsewhere and retrieve whatever data provided you can mount it. If it's bad, most "end user" data retrieval will fail if the HD is broken. You may get lucky where it really can't boot anymore but can access it, the data from another PC setup, adapter or HD dock, etc.. Once done, then you can ship the now *RMA* of the bad HD back and get your "credit", thus not pay for a new HD within return time frame. Unless, i missed something that's the way the warranty works.

FYI- MAYBE, once you get a new HD, it may come pre-loaded with the day-1 s/w bundle like when you brought it. -OR- now is a good time to ask for the OS and s/w bundle install media, known as "recovery discs/flash drive" if the new HD comes blank or empty. I'm sure that's another issue to arise, if you hadn't created your backup/restore media.

tada -----Willy Happy