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Question

How to use installed File Manager app. on HTC Desire Eye?

Sep 8, 2015 7:50PM PDT

I installed Astro File Manager app. but failed to figure out how to use it .
What I want to use it for is to rename my photos or videos to a 'meaningful' file name

I hope I can get a step-by-step guide here.
Thanks for your help in advance.

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Try it
Sep 9, 2015 1:27AM PDT

If File Manager app is complete, you can use this tool (AirMore) to help you install it on your HTC.
1. install this tool on your phone and visit airmore.net to connect your phone with PC by scan the QR code.
2. Once connected, go to "Apps" and click “Install” button to install file manager app.

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2 things.
Sep 9, 2015 6:37AM PDT
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The app was installed correctly
Sep 9, 2015 10:20AM PDT

I have it installed correctly bc it appeared on my home page. Happy

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I don't see rename in that app
Sep 9, 2015 7:03AM PDT
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I saw a menu that included "rename"
Sep 9, 2015 10:43AM PDT

When I searched the Internet I saw a menu of Astro File Manager that included "rename" and other options.

How come HTC does not have a File Manager already installed in the system to make it possible to manipulate the file names?? That's weird.
Anyway, I hope this link works. It's a screenshoot of Astro FM from the Net. http://android.appstorm.net/roundups/utilities-roundups/top-10-file-managers-for-android/]

Look into Root Explorer or Astro File Manager. Both have the menu with "rename" option".

The other file managers also have the menu with a "rename" option. But no one gives a good guide on how to get this menu.

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Android is not Windows.
Sep 9, 2015 10:52AM PDT

You are thinking like a PC user. Android and iOS take a different approach. Apps present the content they work with. Diddling with files is more of a Windows PC idea.

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?????
Sep 9, 2015 1:11PM PDT

This add is for Android only. So I supposed this should work with Android based phone. I don't understand...

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Typo correction
Sep 9, 2015 1:12PM PDT

I meant "This app".... Sorry about that.

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As you move to other OSes
Sep 9, 2015 2:54PM PDT

You see different approaches to how things work. And with Android and the new thing is to not supply any user manuals.

But as I wrote, Android apps with the exception of file managers rarely expose the file system. With so many coming from Windows PCs they bring a lot of the ideas from Windows with them.

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Not good
Sep 9, 2015 4:02PM PDT

" ... And with Android and the new thing is to not supply any user manuals" << not good.

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There are good Youtubes on many areas.
Sep 9, 2015 4:13PM PDT

While I lament the passing of the written word, I've lost count where we supplied a manual and the owner called to ask anyway.

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I need written words. :)
Sep 9, 2015 6:06PM PDT

If the owner calls and asks anyway then probably the user manual does not satisfy them.
I often experiment myself. And if I learn things by myself and accomplish them I write articles on wikiHow.
I don't like using a video as a manual because I have to replay every step and it's annoying and time consuming. .
What works for me the best is a step-by-step written instruction.

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With Android there can be no step by step.
Sep 9, 2015 6:14PM PDT

Look at how Android is a moving target. Many devices arrived with one version and later changed to another or yet another. This is why those that want a written step by step often explode when they discover the exact steps vary depending on Android 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or later. Android's fragmentation is a big deal for those that want written step by steps.

I have many examples but how do I manage? By accepting that instructions are merely guides and no longer can be exact.

-> I've seen a lot of folk chuck Android and go get an iPad.

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Android's apps may be useless to me
Sep 9, 2015 7:24PM PDT

I understand what you're saying R. Proffitt ....
I have not tried any apps other then File Manager, but if I do in the future it seems like a lot of apps (if not all) may be useless to me if I can't get an explanation how it works.

I am not new with computers but new with Android.

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I see "rename" on them, but...
Sep 9, 2015 2:02PM PDT

....I don't see how that means "bulk rename" which is what you wanted. Android is derived from Linux and it has some file managers with bulk rename, but I don't know if any of them would work in Android itself. One in KDE that works great for renaming bulk files is "dolphin". You may need to move files to a PC, do the bulk rename and then back to the phone.

I see Total Commander is available and it's a good file manager. It also says "rename" but nothing indicating it does "bulk rename".

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ghisler.android.TotalCommander

Here's a bulk renamer. Check out the slide show, see if it's what you are looking for. Also watch the linked youtube videos on it's use, there are 8 of them listed.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klangappdev.bulkrenamewizard

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I don't need bulk renames
Sep 9, 2015 4:05PM PDT

I am not sure what you mean by "bulk renames". On my previous (flip phone) I was able to rename EVERY photo that was in my Gallery individually to a meaningful name. .

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then your file manager should do that
Sep 9, 2015 8:27PM PDT

Can't you save to a new name?

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I don't know how to save to a new name
Sep 10, 2015 8:10AM PDT

Are you talking about with File Manager or without? Without FM it saves automatically and I have no option to give it another name.

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I don't know HOW to save it to a new name using file manager
Sep 10, 2015 8:12AM PDT

That's the whole point. I need some guide, some push. LOL

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It may be 2 steps.
Sep 10, 2015 8:38AM PDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gei2M5miZsc at about 1 minute 40 seconds shows how you press and hold to copy a file or folder. What I find is many don't know to hold down your finder to get that pop up menu

So that's the copy, now you do the paste and rename as you wish.
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That seems closer to what I want
Sep 10, 2015 2:07PM PDT

I am going to watch the video closely after I get back.. Hurrying out now ... Many thanks for your help, R. Proffitt. Happy Much appreciated. I am sure nobody knows this thing.
I'll have to re-install FM again because I deleted it. LOL

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I am not quite clear why copy/paste first
Sep 10, 2015 5:20PM PDT

I am not quite clear what and why I copy/paste, and then rename. He speaks too fast. I just need to only rename some pictures' names. For example, a picture is saved by Android as a bunch of characters like dgfjhfy586hlkjlj and I want to rename it into "Sandi at home". That's all. LOL

I have to watch again. I am too tired today. Tomorrow I will install ES File Explorer and will experirment.

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slow the video
Sep 11, 2015 8:12AM PDT
http://www.youtube.com/html5

click to use the html5 player as your default and then you will gain controls in the video to run it slower so the fast talk will be easier to understand.
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I am not familiar ...
Sep 11, 2015 8:54AM PDT

Hi James, I am not familiar with html5player, and not sure how to use it. Sad

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I give up
Sep 11, 2015 4:02PM PDT

Thank you all guys for trying to help. I give up. It's too confusing to me.

But something is really amazing to me - WHY it was so easy with a click of the button to rename a file on a flip "Breeze" phone (which is a primitive one) and it's so complicated on Android HTC.

Logically it should be the other way around, that such a small task as Rename should be really easy on the phone like mine, without having to install an app. This is odd to me.

Thank you all for your geniune desire to help. Much appreciated! Happy

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Because of how Android changed so much sine 2010?
Sep 11, 2015 5:36PM PDT

I think "rename" is more of an iconic Windows, Apple OS/X idea. With Android I rarely use a file manager. It's rarely needed.

But how one uses it is vastly different than a WIMP machine (Windows Icon Mouse Pointer.)

There are new skills one learns like tap, tap and hold, tap and drag and so on that has no same thing you would do on Windows.

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It should have been included into OS
Sep 11, 2015 8:20PM PDT

Simple file managing tasks like Copy, Rename, Delete should have been included in OS when HTC was designed.

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So is this a Phone or a computer?
Sep 11, 2015 8:27PM PDT

The basic Android operations with apps rarely and in fact never have us dealing with the underlying file system. Only when folk try to use it like a PC does this seem to come up.

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Well...
Sep 12, 2015 12:26PM PDT

This is a cell phone and I do not try to use it as a PC. I know it's a phone. I refer to the feature I'd prefer to have IN THE PHONE. Happy

Like I said before in "Breeze" flip phone I had all that features I needed. I'd keep this phone if I did not have problems with that phone lines ...