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How to tell if you are being gouged at the pump

Apr 26, 2006 2:35AM PDT

(From a transcript. Scroll down about 3/4 of the page to:

WILLIS

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/26/lt.02.html

Are you being gouged? That's a big question people are asking. They think they are. But here's some rules of thumb. If a gas station has dramatic price swings of more than 20 cents a gallon in two days, it may be a sign you're getting gouged. Or if gas stations in your community have more than a five-cent a gallon difference between them, another sign. So check AAA's fuel gauge report at fuelgaugereport.com to see what the average gas price is in your community.

She goes on with more tips and where to complain.

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it's all semantics Angeline
Apr 26, 2006 2:55AM PDT

some people feel gouged, i feel 'reamed'

Wink

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(NT) (NT) :-)
Apr 26, 2006 4:14AM PDT
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Gas station owners get a bad rap...
Apr 26, 2006 4:22AM PDT

for the most part. Their "profit margin" is very low.

It's smoke and mirrors. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. We ARE being gouged...by the government.

I've heard some gas staion owners are putting up signs telling customers just how much of what they are paying is taxes and how much goes to the station and the oil companies. If I owned a gas station I would definitely do that.

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But......
Apr 26, 2006 4:34AM PDT

.....how do you explain stations raising prices on gas that's already in their tanks (and that they've already paid for)?

If the price is going up at the source, then the increase should only hit the consumer when the station's tanks are refilled with the more expensive gas, right?

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How about this,
Apr 26, 2006 4:38AM PDT

gas stations have to raise their price so that they can pay for their next shipment at a higher cost. If they didn't raise their prices, they could not afford to by the next shipment

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They don't pay cash for it
Apr 26, 2006 4:40AM PDT

It's invoiced. So they can make the extra money to pay for it by raising the price on that gas.

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Maybe talk to a station owner...
Apr 26, 2006 4:48AM PDT

and see what his situation is. Are you so sure he's raising the price on gas that's already in the tank? Are you so sure he has credit to refill in advance? You think these guys are getting rich from high gas prices?

Personally I think the station owner should be able to charge whatever the market will bear.

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(NT) (NT) do you know that?
Apr 26, 2006 6:34AM PDT
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Never run a business I see
Apr 27, 2006 12:13AM PDT

We are friendly with the owner of our local gas station. He's considering converting one pump to cash sales only because the credit card surcharge adds several cents to the cost of each gallon. Post Katrina his prices went through the roof, but he was only making a couple of cents on each gallon. I have no reason to question his integrity in the matter. IF he were gouging, I can go to the next nearest gas station and see what he's selling for.

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In addition, Evie,...
Apr 27, 2006 10:11AM PDT

...the gas station owners I know here are billed at a "net plus 15" basis, meaning that payment is due no later than 15 days after the invoice date. That interval is simply too short for them to do what Josh suggests.

A little economic literacy in this country would work miracles, IMO...

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But,
Apr 27, 2006 10:21AM PDT

It's so much easier to believe a massive worldwide conspiracy, (and blame Bush)

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It would, except for...
Apr 27, 2006 10:25AM PDT

that messy politicians' heads on pikes part.

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They are buying more for the future!
Apr 27, 2006 12:10AM PDT

Also, demand is in the "here and now". Most gas stations make profit on services other than gas (mini-mart, car wash, etc.). If they run out of gas, they don't get customers for those either. If they are selling gas for too cheap, they'll be swamped and then run out.

This is why the huge Pilot gas station off I-95 that USUALLY has some of the cheapest gas in the state ups the price during these crunches. For a couple of weeks post-Katrina they were considerably more expensive than their neighbors by several cents, even more expensive than Mobils on the highway! They are doing it again. Gouging requires either collusion or participation of the consumer. IOW, there's almost always a station or two that have very high prices. They also have no lines at the pumps or the registers inside. Depending on the circumstances, I'll gladly be "gouged" by them!

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Yes they do, Ed H.
Apr 26, 2006 8:10AM PDT

But, like so with many other things, there can be one who takes advantage.

And those few are what the article is about. It does not blame other owners for the gas prices, nor do I. No doubt 99.99+% of them are honest.

By knowing what to look for price-wise, that rare gouger can find himself without any business, instead of their casting a cloud of suspicion on the honest ones.

Angeline
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In our area,
Apr 27, 2006 1:45AM PDT

The pumps have stickers on them that tell exactly what the taxes are on each gallon, federal and state. They also show nearby states' taxes too. I can save almost 20 cents a gallon by riding 6 miles into Virginia for gas.

Cindi