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Question

How to repair Picture It 2002?

Jul 24, 2013 2:29PM PDT

I run PIP 2002 on my XP machine..I love it but all of a sudden it freezes when trying to save a file or trying to open/import and picture. Can take 2 mins or more to move again as if it's trying desperately to open folders and files in my libraries.

I already run the PI9299 patch.

I did upgrade last week to 4GB Ram (instead of 3) but even when I go back to 3 GB and un-re-install PI from the disc it freezes for 2 - 3 mins trying to open picture files, so every step can tke 3 - 4 mins and uses all my CPU power, and then it often freezes permanently.
I also rolled back system to settings from 10 days ago (before it started jamming) but this has made no difference

I also run XP at home but PI2002 still works normally there (same PC power and same 3GB RAM.)

Can anyone suggest how to get PI 2002 working again as I'm not sure what to do and of course there's no MS Support for this little gem of a program

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Answer
May not be a problem with Picture It
Jul 24, 2013 5:30PM PDT

The problem you describe might point to a known problem with Windows Explorer when it attempts to list corrupted image and/or video files.

Windows Explorer, (note, I don't mean Internet Explorer), is the File Manager for Windows OSes and it pops up all over the OS. For example, My Computer, My Documents, etc are instances of Windows Explorer, and so is the Desktop.

Also, whenever you are using a program and goto File > Open, or File > Save (or Save As), the small dialog window that opens is a Windows Explorer window.

Windows Explorer can display files in different ways, eg Detail, List, Icon, Slideshow, (in some folders). Windows Explorer will struggle and sometimes fail if it is attempting to display a corrupted file in Icon or Slideshow format because it cannot display the file icon correctly. This does not happen in List or Details options.

So I suspect that Explorer is faulting because it is coming across a corrupted file. The quick solution would be to change the way Explorer lists files to Details or List, but if there is a corrupted image file then you will want to find it and remove it.

I hope that helps.

Mark

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Thanks
Jul 24, 2013 9:37PM PDT

That would make sense so I'll try your suggestion and let you know.
I will SOOOOO grateful if that solves it.

I really am lost without it.
Mark

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How can I tell which image file might be corrupted?
Jul 24, 2013 9:49PM PDT

How do I change the default Windows Explorer view before PIP2002 tries to "see" a file?
Is it under My Computer/Tools/Folder options/view and defaults there?

And if there is a corrupted file is there a simple way to see or find which one it is?

Many thanks for your wisdom
Mark

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Yes, its a problem.
Jul 25, 2013 6:12PM PDT

It is a bit like a catch 22. You need to open Windows Explorer and navigate to the folder with the corrupted files before you can change the "View" setting to List or Details. However, Explorer may crash because of any corrupted files before you can make the change.

What I would try is to set the view option globally. In Explorer navigate to any other folder, select "Details", (my choice generally), then open Tools > Folder Options > View tab, and click the "Apply to all folders" button, then Apply/OK if necessary.

If that works you should then be able to open the suspect folder without problems.Then your task is a process of elimination and one way I would try this would be to create a test folder, select and copy half the files from the suspect folder to the test folder, then change the view options in the test folder to Icons and see what happens.

Remove those copies from the test folder, (remember, copy, not move. This means you still have the originals in the original folder). Copy over the other half and test again.

Keep halving the selection until you narrow it down to the affected file.

After all that hope that this is the problem and there is not a problem with the application itself.

Good luck.

Mark

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Sadly this is not the issue?
Jul 28, 2013 3:29PM PDT

Sadly I'm not sure the Windows Explorer issue is the cause after all. I've done all you said but it makes no difference.

Whenever PIP has to look to my PC for anything it freezes and uses 100% of my CPU and the poor old hard drive sounds like it's going to have a heart attack.

The memory freeze/overload comes whether I:
a) When in PIP I try to "save as" anything....it can't find where to save something or even suggest a folder it might be saved in...it just never even gets that far and freezes with HD whirring when I click Save-As

b) If I open an existing PIP file (can only do this by selecting the PNG file and right click, open with: PIP2002) I can save this if I change a word, but if I either try to add a photo or "save As" another name, then I get a freeze and all my memory goes as it chews itself to a standstill.

So it feels like any need for PIP to "look" at my PC or other files causes a jam.

Nothing else is bust and my AVG licence and anti-virus scans are all up to date. No changes to my firewall or other programs...just PIP can't work with any file or other element I wish to add into a PIP file.

Does that make any sense?
And I thank you again for troubling to reply.

Cheers
Mark

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That's sad.
Jul 28, 2013 5:49PM PDT

It's a shame that this isn't a simple 'corrupted file' issue. It makes finding a solution so much harder.

As you say, Picture It is no longer supported by Microsoft so that is one hurdle. Finding a replacement application would seem to be an obvious choice, although I guess that would have its own problems.

One XP machine has no problems with Picture It whilst the other XP machine does. That might point to a problem with that other computer itself, either OS problems or early signs of hardware problems/failure.

Does the Event Viewer show any errors? To start the Event Viewer goto Start > Run, type in eventvwr.exe then click OK, then in the new window select Windows > Application or Windows > System, and look for errors. Google will help with identifying error codes.

I notice you said you have tried uninstalling then reinstalling PIP. Did you reboot the system after the uninstall? If not that might help as it resets and updates the registry and important/relevant system files.

I am not sure what else to suggest, other than a full reinstall of XP. Not something I ever really relished doing myself.

Mark

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The preview is usually it.
Jul 29, 2013 1:23AM PDT

Sorry to read your reply but I could be wrong. Did you try it?
Bob