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How to install older windows without using dvd/cd

Hi there
I'm having lag with windows 7 and I wanted to go back to xp
since I heard that Windows 2000 is pretty similar to xp but a bit faster I'd like to install that one
so I got the setup files, but how can I install it on windows 7, it says that I have a higher version so I guess I'd need to do it via boot but my cd burner is having problems and I can't do it because of that.

Is there some other way?
I hear you can format your usb or smth (something) and use it to install it?
what does formatting the usb mean?
can it be done that way? if yes how? and are there other ways?


Also same question goes for windows 8 since it says that it can't identify if I'm ready to install it so I'd have to try boot but.. cd burner.. and yeah same question for xp (guess the answer would be the same for all) (just keeping more options but priority is 2000)

Please look this as well http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/tiny-voice-acting-part-help-for-friend-please/
p.s. does anyone have a british accent here? my friend could use a voice actor for a video on yt?

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old unsupported windows, or something new and better?

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Is there some other way?
I hear you can format your usb or smth (something) and use it to install it?
what does formatting the usb mean?
can it be done that way? if yes how? and are there other ways?


Sure is! Instead of going backwards into unsupported windows versions, go forward into highly supported Linux versions that are similar to those older 2000 and XP you wanted.

Zorin linux has various themes you can apply and a windows theme is popular with it.

I use Mint 17.1 MATE myself and like it.

If older computer, Lubuntu would feel familiar to a windows user.

Many videos on Youtube to see them.

Zorin, Lubuntu, Mint, is your ticket "back".

http://www.linuxmint.com

http://www.zorin-os.com

http://www.lubuntu.org

Or find another one, check the popularity list at

http://www.distrowatch.com

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I'd really like xp or 2000 no other than windows

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I'd really like xp or 2000 no other than windows

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what model computer or motherboard?

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The problem is there may be NO DRIVER FILES for the chips on the motherboard for XP or 2000, especially if you bought it with windows 7 already on it.

There is a way to do it, but would first need linux to boot, run virtualbox program, and then install XP or win2000 into a virtual harddrive, which is a file on your hard drive. Typically about 500 MB of RAM is used to run the Linux and Virtual software, the rest of RAM can be devoted to the virtual system (2000 or XP).

There's some distinct advantages to such a setup. The main system won't get hacked like windows or from windows virus. The virtual hard drive can be copied to another file and be preserved for a quick restore or even used in a different computer in virtual system for 2000, maybe not activate for second computer in XP however. Or being in a same virtual system, XP may stay activated, since it should be the same when checked.

Of course, another advantage is the use of Linux OS if wanted, especially if the virtualized windows takes a hit by virus or trojan.

Here's a couple pages I made today showing what's on my Mint Linux 17 system. I've not added text, but one can surmise what each image is portraying if studied some.

http://glenburniemd.net/CNET/Linux17/index.html

You first need to determine if your motherboard has driver files to support XP or 2000 before perhaps wasting time trying to install one of them.

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reply to james (confusing reply system)

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My pc came with nothing then it got XP installed on it, and XP supports all my needs, I heard there are problems with 2000 now so I'll be using XP then but how do I install it without cddvd, what is usb formatting and can that do it?

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Let me repeat and add to what I said below:

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Replacing a broken burner by another one (or even only a cd-reader) is easy and cheap. Or find a friend that has a portable CD-drive (and hope that the installer will be able to read what it needs from USB). Much easier than installing from a USB-stick.

With a new cd-reader you should be able to install XP from the same original disk as was done the first time. Are you sure you still have all the original drivers needed for XP? You write "it got XP installed on it", which makes me think somebody else did it for you. Then maybe it's better to ask them to do it again.

Kees

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Kees is right, get a USB DVD drive

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That should allow you to install from CD. There is another way, but you still need to get the files from CD onto hard drive. It involves using an older windows 98 boot disc if you still have floppy drive. You boot to the DOS screen and then use the DOS commands (xcopy) if you remember them to get the CD files onto the hard drive. You then find the i386 folder and run the winnt.exe file.

Here's a tutorial from Microsoft on it.

If the computer supports booting from USB, then can copy all the files from win98 bootdisk to a flashdrive. You would also have to use the "attrib" command to expose all hidden and system files and be sure they also get onto the flashdrive, especially MSDOS.SYS and IO.SYS, I think those are the two needed. You may have to run the SYS command to make it bootable, been a while since I messed with that method.

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I see many prior discussions

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But here's the rub. No one will support other than the Microsoft way.

But about 2000. It's usually way beyond folk today as to installing. There are bizarre limits on memory, disk space/size that I find folk today unable to deal with. 2000 also was left with exploits and no patches so why anyone would fool around with it on the web is anyone's guess. Those that will do so, know the risks so tell them to go right ahead but never tell them it's OK.

Where are those prior discussions? Try Google and phrases like:

How to install Windows 2000 without a CD Drive.

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reply to r profitt

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what do you mean by limits on memory and space?

(i don't have a prob abotu security as I dont use credits)

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Many machines won't boot old Windows NT 4.0 or 2000

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With more than 2 or 4GB RAM. Also, the boot drive might have to be 2GB or smaller. On some recent NT 4.0 setup we had to scrounge up an old 120GB drive. All these hardware stories are on the web but you are diving into the past where not all was documented. And today's hardware may not have drivers for ethernet, video, USB, etc.

As to credits, the bad folk don't care. They'll put kiddie pron on your machine and SWAT you just for fun. Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting and http://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/swatting/

Why give them such an easy target?

If you must run a light OS, make it a mean one like Linux, Chronexium, BSD or such.

On top of all that, you want to use a non-standard no-CD install. Are you this guy?
http://fscomps.fotosearch.com/compc/CLT/CLT004/ks2495.jpg
Bob

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(NT) That pic looks like the Redmond execs to me! :-)

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reply to profitt

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well that sucks lol

ps. my pc has old hardware anyway but I'll use xp unless you can suggest me some OS which is equally draining as XP (preferrably xp classical theme, but if not xp normal theme is good i can run that, just want even less process and ram usage)

Who's bob Silly I can't replace my burner right now and I don't intend to as I usually never need it so I would buy me a new PC but thats few years in the future not a year but few years, so for that time I would stick with this pc. What is usb formatting and can that help?

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Burners and Readers

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video on how to do it

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I think folk have good answers so far.

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Dive in and get it done may be the best thing for you to do. No better way to learn than to do it.

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Re: install from USB

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Replacing a broken burner by another one (or even only a cd-reader) is easy and cheap. Or find a friend that has a portable CD-drive (and hope that the Windows 2000 setup program will be able to read what it needs from USB). Much easier than installing from a USB-stick.

Where did you get your setup files? Microsoft only distributed them on CD and any other source might be considered illegal and refuse to activate.

For hardware support and drivers, XP SP3 might be a better choice than 2000.

Kees

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install with usb

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you can burn the iso image to an usb drive, and then boot the usb to install old windows

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