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How secure is security?

by Daibad / September 17, 2006 2:05 AM PDT

I have M/s Firewall, AVG,Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D and a few more BUT still I am inundated with pop-ups for poker, strippers,bingo and many more kinds of muck and nonsense. However, these very same producs which fail to stop the pop-ups, for the very strangest reasons seem to offer total resistance to the most respectable businesses. My own ISP (wanadoo) IS USUALLY BLOCKED, Samsung has been blocked, CNET has been blocked -even Microsoft has been blocked! And yet every scabby worthless nuisance that wants to invade my privacy and waste my time with pointless (to me) ads. seems to have carte blanche irrespective of interrupting my letters, spoiling my program downloads and causing me many wasted hours trying to eliminat them. When I have increased the blocking level, M/soft has had the nerve to tell me I have to reduce my protection -to allow them access! And they are among those being blocked! This situation is completely insane - something MUST be done about it!Can we start HERE people?

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Are you using Internet Explorer?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / September 17, 2006 2:31 AM PDT

That may be one item but another is where you go on the internet. If you visit bad sites with IE your machine has no defense. Hint: Stop going there with IE.

Next get all the pests out and switch to some non-IE browser.

If you were looking for solid security, it's not available on Windows yet.

Maybe a Mac or linux next time?


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How secure etc.
by Daibad / September 17, 2006 7:50 AM PDT

Thank you Bob; no, I was not visiing 'bad' sites - and the deeper you look into my topic' the more concerning it is. How can the rubbish get through my settings but my ISP (wanadoo, now called 'orange') often cannot unless I use Ative X to 'permit' it access to send me official information? Likewise Microsoft itself. In fact, even as I am typing this my AVG Resident Shield has detected another Trojan Horse Downloader Generic2 MUZ. Is CNET a bad site?
Do not think so.
Something REALLY must be done, at last.
Anyway, again thanks for the response
(Yes, I do use IE, sorry)

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Bingo. ActiveX.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / September 17, 2006 8:51 AM PDT
In reply to: How secure etc.

You've written the magic word. Look at the Mac, Linux, Firefox and others and what's missing? ActiveX.

There is almost no reason for ActiveX given the security risks present. If we allow ActiveX then we've allowed the pests that leverage the holes in that item.

There is something you can do but no one can make you do it.

As to CNET and your trojan, it's time to read other replies about cleanup.

Try the usual scans with EWIDO, HOUSECALL and in your case be sure there is no rootkit with tools noted at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkits


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How secure is security
by Daibad / September 18, 2006 12:34 AM PDT
In reply to: Bingo. ActiveX.

Thanks again, Bob,for pertinant comment. Problem is that, having read you profile, Icna see why you are so iterate in computing matters. I, at 70, am a tyro and often cannot get to grips with processes and consequences in computing. Woud love to dump I.E. but fear the problems this will cause me - changing to this Logitec wireless keyboard and mouse has been traumatic enough; do not know how I would cope repairing the problems if I followed your advice.
REAL point,however, is why does M/soft INSIST on th use of Active X ? Is there a hidden agenda - for instance, does M/soft get some cut of sorts from the purveyors of all this 'repair' and 'protection' software? Heaven knows there is enough cash swishing around in this area of computing to attract the giants and still leave mountains of money for the distributors.
If I ever feel really adverturous shall try Firefox - even the name sounds good!
P.S. What on eaerth is a 'root kit'?

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