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How men handle man-made problems.

Feb 27, 2018 10:21PM PST

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Problems
Feb 28, 2018 3:54AM PST

There are always people looking to make a buck by scamming the system.

The good doctor has been caught a second time and is now out on bail.

The judicial system will now figure this out.

Medicare vaccines....I think there are 2 different strengths for the flu vaccine...high dose/low dose.
The high dose is for over 65.
Does this apply to all vaccines?....beats me.
Is it strong enough?......beats me...........the medical types can argue that.

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Yes, the newer hi-test version just came out.
Feb 28, 2018 7:45AM PST

I'm on my way to the VA now for blood work. I intend to ask about it; I've already had the older one. They may not have the newer one yet; I expect I'll survive.
As I read the article it said or implied that all vaccines were dual-strength, with the weaker ones earmarked for lower-income Medicare patients. [Her scheme relied on jabbing privately insured ones with the low-test while billing their insurers for the big one.
I posted this partly because doctor oversight is notoriously poor in the US; didn't know if you knew that.
So, two problems that I can see.
>Unrepentant offender vs. a system that's unlikely to penalize her effectively.
>Vaccines that are provided in two strengths with the tacit admission that the weaker one may/will not prevent the diseases.
Are these correct assessments, or did I misunderstand something?

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I think
Feb 28, 2018 12:05PM PST

The high dose version has been out for years.

It's recommended for 65 and older people because the immune system at that age does not react well with the low dose.

For younger people the low dose is all that's needed.

Is either 100% effective.....no.

You could give the high dose to a younger person but there is no extra benefit from it and it cost more.

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(NT) Vaccines, plural.
Feb 28, 2018 1:12PM PST
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Survived the VA.
Feb 28, 2018 10:48PM PST
Happy
They say I'll get the pneumonia booster when I go in Monday. There's a new stronger shingles jab that has just been cleared. They will get it when the bureaucratic wheels stop grinding, and I can get it then. Probably won't bother because I got the other one, and I'm currently living with a victim. [Don't tell her I said currently.]
They upped the 'strongly recommended'age for flu vaccination from 70 to 80. I got that one this season, and I'm fine. Pneumonia is another story because it's how the worse flu does its killing.
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Just a thought
Mar 1, 2018 4:21AM PST

Since I have medicare as well as the VA I just go around the corner to my local pharmacy and just show my medicare card to get flu/pneumonia/shingles shots there.

Saves the travel to the VA.
I'm in and out in 15 mins.

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First, do no harm
Feb 28, 2018 5:08AM PST

Your primary care physician may take the more conservative approach in the same way a pediatrician may do the same. A child with a possible ear infection will be given amoxicillin. When that doesn't work, they go with something stronger like Septra. Your oncologist does the opposite and goes right for the cannon instead of the BB gun. Why is this?

Remember...Lawyers are standing by to take your call.

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Ear infections are nasty and can progress.
Feb 28, 2018 1:12PM PST

Cancer is much more likely to progress, to death.

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The ear infection thing comes from personal experience
Feb 28, 2018 3:08PM PST

as my son was born with a condition that made him prone to ear infections. The drill, however, was always the same. 10 days of Amoxicillin and a recheck. It never worked and the doctor went for something stronger that always worked. Why she'd not just prescribe that in the beginning was a mystery. My son ended up having tubes in his ears for some time until there was no longer any need. You OP mentioned "man-made problems". Since it's come to light that the use of antibiotics has resulted in the production of bacteria resistant to the weaker drugs, I thought it a good fit. It seems that anytime man tries to circumvent the natural order of things, he gets slapped in the face for it.

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I married my wife and her young son.
Feb 28, 2018 10:38PM PST

A month later I had my first ear infection. Happy
Yes, antibiotics are used to promote growth in livestock. The chain is longer, because the cow needs to harbor a bug common to them and us, which then becomes our problem. It may not matter to the cow if it isn't sickened by it.
People want to 'get better', so they want the Doc to help. Since WWII that means a pill of some kind, usually an antibiotic. Absolutely useless against the flu or any other virus, but it is available now to nudge some of your resident bugs into immunity. Many doctors [fewer now, I hope] still prescribe such for colds and flu, along with helpful things. Why? The money? Perhaps, or just to get a whiny patient out of the office.

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BTW I'm happy your son had a good outcome.
Feb 28, 2018 10:40PM PST

Doesn't always happen.

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Don't understand her motives
Feb 28, 2018 5:09AM PST

There are many situations when doctors do something in favor of the uninsured patients. Sometimes it's noble but this is not the case. Hope no one ended up with an infection

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Unethical & Dangerous
Mar 3, 2018 12:20AM PST

Doesn't it all boil back down to the greed of men? And it's her second offense at that, plus she didn't even keep her vaccines sterile. This woman deserves to be jailed, and if I could have my way probably injected with her own vaccine - which based on the article, may cause 'severe adverse reactions or infections at the injection site'.