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How do I get rid of the annoying Windows 10 upgrade nag?

Oct 23, 2015 4:51PM PDT
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How do I get rid of the annoying Windows 10 upgrade nag?

Unlike many of the people who jumped on the bandwagon and upgraded to Windows 10, I'm one of the people who are happy with what I have running now. I may change my mind later on and upgrade before the free upgrade time is over, but for now I'm not going near Windows 10. I'm tired of seeing the Windows 10 upgrade nag on my desktop and I want to know how I can get rid or block that annoying promotional pop-up. Can someone help me with this? Much appreciated.

--Submitted by Paul S.

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LibreOffice 5.0.<something>
Nov 4, 2015 7:41PM PST

LibreOffice 5.0.<something> is quite identical to MS Office. It has a look-and-feel like older Office 2003. You can read and save documents, spreadsheets, presentations in MS formats, but, as always, there is possible loss of some formatting. Why? Because MS Office is NOT open source. Microsoft owns it, lock-stock-and-barrel, and they can and do change file formats from time to time. As I've stated elsewhere, think of LibreOffice as Charlie Brown and Microsoft as Lucy holding the football.

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Confusion about Linux (and Windows) open source Office?
Nov 5, 2015 5:35AM PST

Just in case there is some confusion about all those products with Office in the name:
I am sure people know what Office 2013 and Office 365 are. Nuf said.
Open Office is currently in the custody of Oracle, which got ownership when it acquired Sun. Larry Ellison would rather spend money on yachts (more strategic) than Open Office, so Open Office limps along slowly.
LibreOffice was forked off from Open Office and it is under the management of a separate mostly European consortium. The developers of LibreOffice do their best to remain in step with Microsoft Office capabilities.

SO... LibreOffice is generally the Office software of choice in the world of Linux. Works nicely under Windows and OS X, too. And, of course, there are some other open source Office products, but they lag behind LibreOffice in usage.

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Are you sure about that?
Nov 5, 2015 2:29PM PST

I thought Apache bought out Oracle on Open Office. Just say'n. Confused

I'd even say Libre Office is becoming the favorite of Windows users too!

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I still have Star Office somewhere here
Nov 5, 2015 8:10PM PST

It's the version released just before it was taken over by Sun Microsystems. I think 5.2, haven't seen that CD in awhile now, must be in a box somewhere.

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Apache's OpenOffice
Nov 6, 2015 3:42AM PST

You're right. OpenOffice is now Apache's, because Larry did not want it. But LibreOffice seems to have been worked upon much more aggressively.

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How to get rid of Win 10 update nag
Oct 31, 2015 7:11AM PDT

First off I tried the upgrade and had troubles on a laptop going from Win 7 to Win 10 that took 3 tries. My neighbor had Windows support in his Win 8.1 for two days trying to get it to work. My desktop that was a build as Win XP that went to Win 7 and then Win 10 was a complete fail with both DVD drives dead , SCSI card and devices dead , USB bus messed up plus no sound. It has multiple hard drives that are Sata selectable at boot up. All the hardware worked fine on my original Win XP drive and my Ubuntu drive so it was the Win 10 causing the trouble. The upgrade will eliminate any drivers updates you did via Windows saying "new device found ". In other words unless you do all your device driver updates , including the MB manufacturer by going to the vendors web site to get them but instead just let Windows do it they will get eliminated. Win 10 does not update drivers and instead just recognizes the device ID. You get no errors when you try to run a device that the Win 10 upgrade eliminated the drivers and instead "nothing happens".
Now that being said I rolled back my desktop to Win 7 and manually installed all the driver updates from the vendors web sites. Next I found I kept getting the message saying "windows 10 upgrade will start". In fact it blocked any and all other updates. After 2 months I had 43 urgent updates I could not install. I tried everything I could including eliminating the updates that were causing the notification as described by multiple web sites. I then found what is now called "GWX Control Panel". I ran it once and it found all the sources of the message and eliminated all of them. I then could do the 43 urgent updates and after a restart I got another 27. My system runs fine. By the way if you do go to Win 10 then get a 3rd party drive update program. My laptop had 17 original drivers on it and my neighbor had 15 on his. I'm talking about the laptop hardware drivers like your USB Bus.

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The BEST, easiest way to eliminate....
Oct 31, 2015 8:02AM PDT

... All Microsoft "nagging" is to simply REMOVE windows altogether. I installed Linux Mint and I can't believe how well my life runs from the technical perspective. It's literally exciting to see how well the computer now runs.

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Tried it but will wait until computer comes preinstalled
Oct 31, 2015 2:07PM PDT

Okay i am one who did the upgrade and i liked it apart from the games being subscription or ad supported. Everything worked great and yes annoying that the vanishing toolbars was you just ran your cursor over the top and they came back .

My issue was the display resolutions would change when i connected my laptop to my tv and then when my anti virus stopped working that was it i went back to Win7. That's when the problems started was a 3 hour job to go to winX and a 8 hour job to go back (i think i went to bed).

And then the WinX upgrade nags started So i went in and uninstalled the kb whatever file it was but it keep uploading in the update and it self installed so i had to revert back again then i had to do a registry edit to stop it ( Caution that option is a last resort) Then i had to go and ide the update kb etc and then i got frustrated and called MS support what a waste of time that was they kept insisting they needed remote access to fix my computer.
hell i could tell i knew more than the person on the phone (she kept insisting that i hadn't hidden the update in windows update) Refused access and hung up.

left the whole lot alone then a week later there was a update that actually was named upgrade to windows 10 hid that and its been fine ever since.
Except for the fact that i can't install norton back on my system but as my subscription was due for renewal i figured they didn't want my money if they couldn't fix it.

If Anything WinX is worse than the bloatware on your phone and like apple lacks the customization ability that i want.

And the updates can't be automated as data limits still apply especially with a lot of ppl switching to shared mobile data plans for all their devices

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I have over a dozen W10 machines at the office now.
Oct 31, 2015 2:25PM PDT

What is this bloatware you wrote about. Here I'm not seeing it.

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maybe they are talking about...
Oct 31, 2015 6:34PM PDT

the programs they feel are needed for optimum security. MSE is one of the lowest rated protection programs, so often a different AV is added to it. You yourself have used supplemental software in 8, Classic Start, which is more of a help actually. Some may falsely believe that needing to hunt and add drivers for devices constitutes more "bloat", when it's a necessary aggravation that's added. Some coming from W7 and before may consider the App's Store more "bloat".

It's a good question, I wonder what they do consider "bloat" unless addressing the amount of room the software requires for installation.

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I hear you.
Nov 3, 2015 12:17PM PST
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I think they want it as....
Nov 4, 2015 4:07AM PST

.... a competition to Android and it's apps, but also like the Linux repositories for each distro. They've either failed to realize, or chosen not to recognize, that repositories have software that's been checked and vetted FIRST before it's allowed to be place in the repository.

If someone wants to risk outside software other than what's in repository, they know it because they have to add an PPA to their package manager or do like windows users and go to the site, download the software directly.

Microsoft having it as their own "app store" implies that level of care was taken before any app was allowed in their store, and that's obviously NOT the case. Maybe they should have called it the Microsoft App Flea Market instead? They've given the apps in it an implied approval of safety, most would think that being it's "their store", and that just doesn't seem to be the case.

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Getting rid of Windows 10 installer Icon and File KB303558
Nov 1, 2015 5:25AM PST

I agree this file windows 10 installer file ( KB3035583) is very annoying but the best way to get rid of it using the Windows 7 platform is as follows:

1. Go to Start
2. Click on Control Panel
3. Under Category view click on System and Security
4. Under Windows Update click on View Installed Updates
5. Locate file (KB3035583) click on it then click on Uninstall
at the top and follow the instructions which will require a
reboot for the changes to take effect.

That way the windows 10 icon will disappear and the problem should be solved. Caution Microsoft might try to reinstall the same file when installing updates for Windows 7. Just make certain to unclick the update
which in under the heading of Optional Updates, hope this help.

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Cannot stop Update on Restart
Nov 1, 2015 9:13AM PST

I actually decided to try the upgrade to Windows 10 and created a backup of Windows 7 before doing so.

Alas upgrade failed both via a Windows Update upgrade and a clean USB install. Seems my Graphics card is not yet Windows 10 compatible.

So I went back to my backup of Windows 7 but alas after restored I'm in a permanent state of Windows Update forcing a upgrade on a PC restart..... so currently cannot turn of PC unless do a hard shut down.

I've tried resetting Windows Update using (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/97105Cool but have a Windows Update issue it cannot fix.

And I've tried GWX control panel http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

So looks like I need to do a full clean install of Windows 7 unless anyone has ideas.

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And people ask why don't all us laggards jump to Windows 10?
Nov 1, 2015 11:28AM PST

As I stated before, Win 10 was beta-tested by many early adopters who understand technology pretty well. Now, the real Win 10 beta test is underway, with the software upgrade encountering many more boundary conditions it was not designed or coded to deal with.

I'm afraid that a full clean install of Win 7 is needed, unless there is the possibility that booting in safe mode would lead to some way (REGEDIT?, removing the infamous KB3035583, etc) of killing the incessant and unsuccessful update. Hirens 15.2 Boot CD allows bootup with slimmed-down Windows XP, and enables you to access anything (except the registry) on a computer's hard drive, without concern for all the permissions imposed by Win 7 itself. You could, for example, blow away the folder with the approx 3GB of Windows 10 upgrade files.

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How to uninstall completely and keep it gone...
Nov 1, 2015 5:16PM PST

Hi. Here is how I have resolved this issue on all of my PC’s and Laptops. This is for Windows 8.1. I believe Windows 7 is the same or awfully close. I know this seems like ton of steps but it’s not hard. I simply am trying to be detailed for those that are not overly familiar with how to get around the PC. I hope you find this helpful. Thanks. T

1. End Task on GWX.exe:
a. Right-click anywhere on the Taskbar and select Task Manager
b. Click on the “Processes” tab
c. Right click on GWX and select “End Process" button
d. Close Task Manager
2. Uninstall KB3035583:
a. Click on “Start | Control Panel”
b. Click on “Programs and Features”
c. On left hand side click on “View installed Updates”
d. Find KB3035583
e. Right click on KB3035583 and select “Uninstall”
f. Close Control Panel when finished (Do Not Reboot Yet)
3. Change Ownership and Security on GWX folder and DELETE FILES:
a. Open Windows Explorer
b. Go to: C:\Windows\System32
c. Scroll down and RIGHT CLICK on the folder: GWX
d. Select “Share With” and select “Advanced Sharing”
e. Click on the “Security” tab
f. Near the bottom click on “Advanced”
g. Next to “Owner” you will see “TrustedInstaller”… click on “Change”
h. When the “Select User Group” open click on “Advanced”
i. Click on “Find Now”
j. Scroll through the list of users/groups and select your login/name
k. Click “OK”
l. Click “OK” again
m. Check the box “Replace owner on subcontainers and objects”
n. Under “Permission entries” select the line: “Allow | Administrators (pc name/administrators) | Full Control | C:\Windows\System32\ | This Folder, subfolders and files
o. Check the box “Replace all child object permission entries with inheritable permission entries from this object”
p. Click “Apply”
q. Click “Yes” when the Security Window pops up
r. Click “Yes” again when the “Windows Security” window pops up “You are about to change the permission settings on system folders. This can reduce the security… Do you want to Continue?”
s. Click “OK” when the “Windows Security” window pops up, “If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close and reopen…”
t. Click “OK”
u. You will now be back on the “License Properties” window. Click on “Users (Pc Name\Users)
v. Click on “Edit”
w. Click on “Users (Pc name\Users”
x. Check the box under “Allow” for “Full Control”
y. Click “Apply”
z. Click “Yes”
aa. Click “OK”
bb. Click “OK” again
cc. NOTE: If something in my directions is wrong, you can follow this article: http://www.askvg.com/guide-how-to-take-ownership-permission-of-a-file-or-folder-manually-in-windows/
4. Delete the files in C:\Windows\System32\GWX folder
a. You should now be back in “Windows Explorer” at: C:\Windows\System32\GWX. Click on the “GWX” folder to display the contents of the folder
b. On your keyboard press and hold the “CTRL” key and press the “A” key
c. All files in the “GWX” folder will become highlighted
d. Right click on any of the highlighted files and select “Delete”
e. Click “Yes” on the “Are you sure you want to move these XXXXX files to the Recycle Bin?
f. If prompted for administrator permissions, check the box “Do this for all current items” and then click “CONTINUE”
g. If a window pops up for “File In Use” or “Access Denied” click on “Skip
h. The files in the “GWX” folder should now be gone. If one or two remain, it’s ok.
5. Change Windows Update Settings:
a. Click on Start | Control Panel
b. Click on “Windows Update”
c. On left hand side click on “Change Settings”
d. In the drop down select “Download updates but let me choose whether to install them”
e. Click OK
i. NOTE: This will download all updates going forward automatically but will not install them. This way, when KB3035538 shows up, you can RIGHT CLICK on it and HIDE the update. WHEN it returns, and it will, you can then uncheck it and not install it again.
6. Reboot:
a. Click on Start | Shut Down | Restart
b. When you log back into Windows… the Windows 10 Icon will now be gone.

NOTE: If you do not remove the GWX folder, upon rebooting, Windows will reinstall KB3035583 on its own and then you’ll be stuck doing this all over again. So be sure you change the security on the folder and then delete it before rebooting.

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GWX Stopper
Nov 1, 2015 7:28PM PST

I am pretty sure GWX Stopper does all this in a couple of clicks. Win 10 WiWi will delete the hard to delete W10 install folder ... IF PRESENT.

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I will say it again, WHY NOT JUST CANCEL? See link below
Nov 3, 2015 11:58AM PST
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Didn't work!
Nov 3, 2015 2:55PM PST

All I know is that didn't work for one of my clients - it wouldn't go clear through the process like that page you linked said it would.

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Interesting
Nov 3, 2015 9:21PM PST

JCitizen,

I'm sorry to have read that.
I did this on 3 computers running Win7 and so far, so good.

I wonder why it didn't with your client's computer?
Hopefully one of the other options posted, will help...

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Leave MS in total
Nov 4, 2015 5:57PM PST

in 2009 I had a similar situation when I tried to uninstall a trial version of MS office on my new laptop, I couldn't !!
Then I could not bear the idea of buying a new machine by my own money and somebody their in MS controls how should I use it and what I can install or uninstall on it !!
From that moment I moved to linux, I was overwhelmed with the freedom I had ever since, install whatever or uninstall whatever I want, it is MY machine, and it is completely under MY control !
Yes, LINUX is slightly different, and needed two weeks to learn how things are going with it, but when I see what I gained ; an OS which is not a hardware resources consuming, security ( It does not even require an anti-virus), and thousands of FREE applications, then I look for the time which I invested in learning as one of the best I did.

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No problem leaving Microsoft in total. OOPS! Problem...
Nov 4, 2015 7:48PM PST

It is easy to say to leave Microsoft for Linux and harder to do for many people. Let's just say you use Office with Word, Excel, Powerpoint and Outlook, and you have years of information you want to keep, either because it has value, or because you are a data packrat. To get to Linux, one needs to save all the documents and Outlook PST files, then import them into LibreOffice and Thunderbird on a Linux distro. That may be a lot of work. Now add in less popular, but still mainstream, applications like any of the Adobe Suite or accounting like QuickBooks, and the move to Linux suddenly gets way more complicated. So add the data migration to the learning curve for Linux itself, and the sum total can be overwhelming for the average person. On the other hand, the City of Munich (and others in Europe), with less love for Microsoft, moved to open source software. There were probably several IT grunts doing the data migration.

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Microsoft really being nice?
Nov 8, 2015 6:39PM PST

I didn't want the update, and like everyone else reading this, have found it a nuisance to get rid of the offer.
Is this not a great deal though? I've used Windows 10 on someone else's PC, and have to admit it looks good- a more useable interface than 8. And smooth.
But I believe that there is a big reason why MS wants to be so generous. One of the most important features of Windows 8 and 10 is discouraging and (to a small extent) preventing piracy of media and software. The people who want piracy gone have likely put in a large number of complaints to MS over the years, probably had their back up against the wall. MS can at least now say they tried, they're getting everyone to move on.... Laugh

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Bit of annoyment
Nov 9, 2015 3:49AM PST

I am bit of annoyed through windows flag, when we restarting windows or already start windows then seeing windows 10 notification is bit annoyment

Just do one of two things:-
1) install windows 10
2) remove notification from the end of taskbar

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Simple Solution
Jan 6, 2016 4:01AM PST

This option has worked for me and it looks like the easiest way. I simply click to personalize my icons on the bottom left bar, then I selected the option to "hide icon and notifications". Icon is gone from bar and not pop ups have appeared since then.

Hope it helps, maybe watch what happens next update which I have turned to manual.