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HOT: Windows 7 Information

Jun 2, 2009 8:27AM PDT

Many leaks and rumors have been circulating for weeks, but this is an official notification and release.


When will it be available?
-> Windows 7 will be available through retail and OEM channels starting October 22, 2009.
-> Availability may vary based on computer manufacturer, store, and initial demand.
-> Windows 7 RC (time-limited pre-release version) is currently publicly available!


Will I be able to upgrade to Windows 7 from a previous version?
-> From Windows Vista, yes; most files, applications, and settings will remain intact.
-> From Windows XP, no; a clean installation will be required.
-> From Windows 7 Beta/RC, possibly. (Consult the answer to "Will I be able to upgrade from the Beta/RC to the RTM version?")


Will I be able to downgrade from Windows 7 to a previous version?
-> No. It is not possible to downgrade from one version of Windows to another, necessitating a clean installation.
-> Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate users, however, will be permitted to exchange the Windows 7 license for a corresponding Windows XP or Windows Vista license.


Will I be able to upgrade from the Beta/RC to the RTM version?
-> Possibly. There is a process by which it is technically possible, but it is for advanced users only and is not advisable or supported by Microsoft due to potential malfunctions that may occur as a result. Therefore, a clean installation is strongly encouraged.


Will I receive a discount on the final version?
-> Beta testers will not receive free or discounted copies of Windows 7 upon its release.
-> Starting June 26, 2009, buyers of new computers will receive a free upgrade to Windows 7 once it becomes available.
-> Licensed users of Windows XP and/or Windows Vista may purchase a Windows 7 upgrade license at the reduced price.


How much will Windows 7 cost?
Upgrade:
-> Home Premium: $119.99
-> Professional: $199.99
-> Ultimate: $219.99

Full Retail:
-> Home Premium: $199.99
-> Professional: $299.99
-> Ultimate: $319.99

NOTE: That means Windows 7 Home Premium will cost $40 less at launch than Windows Vista did while Windows 7 Ultimate will cost $40 less to upgrade and $80 less to buy outright!


What are Windows 7's recommended system requirements?
-> 1GHz single-core processor
-> 1GB RAM (32-bit) or 2GB RAM (64-bit)
-> 16GB hard drive (32-bit) or 20GB hard drive (64-bit)
-> Graphics card with 128MB of memory (for Aero Glass)


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Windows 7 will be officially released in 6 editions, closely resembling those found for Windows Vista.
NOTE: Each edition contains all features/capabilities all editions listed above it!


Starter:
Audience: Preinstalled on qualifying Netbooks only
-> Netbooks must not exceed a single 2GHz processor, 1GB RAM, 250GB HDD or 64GB SSD, and 10.2 inch display.
-> Cannot be customized with backgrounds, sounds, themes, et cetera.
-> Excludes DVD playback, multimedia streaming, et cetera.
-> Does not support Fast User Switching (multiple users logged in simultaneously).
-> Does not support the use of multiple monitors.
-> Does not include Aero Glass or any advanced interface features.
-> Only available in 32-bit (x86), not 64-bit (x64).


Home Basic:
Audience: Emerging Markets Only
-> Removes netbook-only restriction.
-> Can be customized with backgrounds, sounds, themes, et cetera.
-> Supports Fast User Switching (multiple users logged in simultaneously).
-> Does not include Aero Glass or any advanced interface features.
-> Excludes DVD playback, multimedia streaming, et cetera.


Home Premium:
Audience: Average home users
-> Includes Aero Glass & advanced interface features.
-> Features easy network management.
-> Includes Windows Media Center & multimedia support.
-> Includes multi-touch support & handwriting recognition.
-> Includes premium games & DVD playback/creation.


Professional:
Audience: Business and professional users
-> Features enhanced domain networking capabilities.
-> Includes system backup over a network capabilities.
-> Includes Encrypting File System (EFS).
-> Features Location Aware Printing.
-> Features Presentation Mode.
-> Features Windows XP Mode (integrated Windows XP virtual machine) for application compatibility.


Enterprise:
Audience: Enterprise volume subscribers only
-> Supports Multilingual User Interface (MUI) packages.
-> Features Bitlocker (provides full hard drive encryption).
-> Features DirectAccess (provides corporate network access).
-> Features BranchCache (decreases network access time).
-> Features AppLocker (prevents running of unauthorized programs).
-> Offers ability to boot from virtual hard drives (VHD files only).


Ultimate:
Audience: All users
-> Same as Windows 7 Enterprise, except available via retail & OEM licensing.


Key Notes:
1.) Starter edition can now run unlimited applications simultaneously and is available worldwide, but is only found on netbooks.
2.) Home Basic edition is now available only in emerging markets rather than on low-end computers in primary markets.
3.) Windows 7 restores the Professional edition, replacing the short-lived Business edition introduced in Windows Vista.
4.) Ultimate Extras, introduced but quite limited in Windows Vista, have been eliminated from the Ultimate edition.
5.) Windows 7 will also be released in N and KR editions in accordance with European and South Korean legislation.
6.) Most users only have three editions to consider: Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate. All others are limited market only!


Questions? Comments? Sound off below!
John

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Dual booting, the best option!
Nov 1, 2009 3:23AM PST

If your machine came with Windows XP find out how you can manage your hard disk so as to install Windows 7 along side XP. If you're able to partition the disk you can then install Windows 7. And to me this is the best option. But mind you, Windows XP should be installed first. Though if Windows 7 is installed first you can still install XP but you have to dig out some processes before making the XP appear.

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July 1st
Jun 17, 2009 10:47PM PDT

-> Starting July 1, 2009, buyers of new computers will receive a free upgrade to Windows 7 once it becomes available.

Does this apply to all manufacturers? Will you get a voucher or will proof of purchase qualify you?
Thanks
Mike7P

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Manufacturer-dependent...
Jun 18, 2009 12:06AM PDT

It is up to each manufacturer whether they want to participate in the program, the exact dates of participation, and how the free upgrade will be administered. Usually, though, a voucher will be included with the computer that can then be redeemed for an upgrade DVD from the manufacturer sometime after Windows 7 is released.

John

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Thanks John, Do you
Jun 18, 2009 12:31AM PDT

know if Win 7 will work on HP Mini 2140 notebook, and do HP usually participate in the update program?
Thanks
Mike7P

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Yes to both...
Jun 18, 2009 2:49AM PDT

The 2140 can run Windows 7 better than Windows Vista, and HP has always been good about participating in upgrade programs. Thus, I would expect them to offer free upgrades starting next month, most likely including the 2140 in the offer.

John

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(NT) Thanks for your help John (NT)
Jun 18, 2009 3:37AM PDT
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free upgrade
Jul 12, 2009 8:40PM PDT

i just saw an ad in the newspaper of a Dell laptop (XPS 13) with the offer of free upgrade to Windows 7

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Free Upgrade
Jul 12, 2009 9:09PM PDT

Yes, despite what Windows announced about the upgrade not being available in Europe, I've seen several manufacturers offering it on their websites.
Confused!!!!
Regards
Mike7P

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Details...
Jul 13, 2009 12:04AM PDT

The European Union ruling against Microsoft has forced Microsoft to release an edition of Windows 7 without Internet Explorer installed, branded Windows 7 E. Because Windows Vista includes Internet Explorer, but Windows 7 E does not, you cannot perform a direct upgrade, requiring a clean install instead. However, you should still be able to order Windows 7 (non-E) upgrades in Europe to avoid the issue, and Microsoft has publicly stated that they are working on a patch to enable Windows 7 E upgrades as quickly as they can, hopefully to be available around the time of Windows 7's official launch.

Hope this helps,
John

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So Far I have
Aug 22, 2009 12:23AM PDT

registered for the upgrade offer on an Acer and HP, they both are doing it through some third party company - the same one, I also had to upload a scanned copy of my reciept to speed the process. What I am finding is more of the cheaper computers are now coming with Vista Basic so they do not have to offer the upgrade - so it's buyer beware if you plan to buy a computer and want to get Win7. If you buy and XP netbook or a Vista Basic computer there won't be an upgrade offer and even some Vista Premium computers at certain manufactures aren't offering it on older stock.

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windows 7 upgrade advisor
Jul 10, 2009 2:47PM PDT

I ran the advisor on my Xp machine and all I need is a upgraded graphics card but I didnt know what kind now I do. 128 mb of memory .I had looked all over for this info, Thanks

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Add to the OP?
Aug 21, 2009 2:05AM PDT
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features eliminated in ultimate???
Aug 21, 2009 11:38PM PDT

Didn't anybody use the advanced network options? Optional network services? Or is it now built in, and are now unnecessary? Feature elimination makes the top end product less of an upgrade from vista. Has the problem of getting systems to see and share files between ME/XP/vista/7 systems over network been improved??There needs to be some compelling improvement to justify having less to upgrade to. Could be they were getting too many tech support questions about them, and decided it was too problematic?? I have not tried 7 yet.

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Compatibility, network, workgroup access, remote desktop,
Aug 30, 2009 2:35AM PDT

I would like to give you a straight answer about this, for the Professional and ultimate, remote PC connection, Home group, Work group, Public group are offer, sharing of files has been improved and it is easy to share file with XP and Vista also.

Anyway for me I decided to go Professional but found that I will have to spend another 15 dollars or so per computer. Microsoft did not advertise that it is required to play DVD if you don't have the Ultimate version that is also not available to the consumer at 50% reduction like their special introductory price for premium and professional and you lost bit locker also with premium and professional version of Windows 7 on this they have been consistent with Vista but the comparison stop there.

If you are in gaming and work same time you will be forced for old game i.e. that work in Vista to probably go dual boot for direct access to the hardware that most of the games are requiring.

Ultimate Vista to Pro is not possible but if you could do it you will see that outside the lost of the codec?s for the DVD, you are gaining in reliability or at least more possibility for Backup, domains access etc and network.

If you are in productivity and do not care or only play the most recent games Windows 7 might be what you are looking for. For my case I am satisfy with windows 7 with one disappointment, most or all of my RPG games that were working in Vista will not work correctly without many intervention and tweaking from me and even so it is not full proof when you try that way.

All my programs i.e. MS Office 2007, live office access old printer and their feature are working the way it should or even better then in Vista Printer made by Brother bought 3 years ago MFC-5440CN work now better under windows 7 then in XP or Vista so go figure.

If you want to know will 7 be better and more friendly, YES it is will all my software that are productivity work I could give you a yes with maybe a odd one that will not work but for that you still have virtualisation that is possible if your hardware support it or you could go with sun virtualisation if you hardware does not support it to have XP mode in windows 7.

For a working point of vue 7 will be better then XP or Vista, games maybe not as they involve many proprietary security feature etc that look for specific pointer that might stop you from using then on windows 7.

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Re Network sharing.
Sep 17, 2009 7:41AM PDT

On my own Workgroup network the sharing is no problem in order to share the files back and forth with other version then win 7 and back to my PC also. You might have to relax the sharing default i.e. version earlier then Windows 7 for example for the workgroup sharing as the home group sharing is only available to other Windows 7 version but you could still share the conventional way, meaning XP style way in Windows 7 for the one that are not Windows 7, it just mean they won't be part of your home group sharing, because Windows is trying to reduce risk of intrusion in your PC to the maximum, but if this is only your workgroup the risk became almost none existent and it apply more in a public setting or semi-public setting or public setting were you should choose the default wizard setting for public network anyway.
If anyone here have a better explanation please feel free to add and point me to what I am missing here as I am just answering without more search or reading but just from my own experience with other windows version on my Workgroup setup, for your info I have in my home XP to Vista all home premium and the Windows 7 is the RC Ultimate, PS you are going to need necessary codec at around $12 to $15 dollars per PC to get the necessary codec to play the DVD for version that is under the Ultimate one so that you are aware even if you are not asking for that point specifically.

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Vista x64 drivers = Win7 x64 drivers?
Aug 24, 2009 12:50AM PDT

I have a Vista x64 preinstalled machine.

Does Win7 use the same drivers as Vista, or do hardware manufacturers have to rewrite their drivers specifically for Win7?

I ask, because "under the hood", Vista and Win7 are said to be quite similar.

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Upgrade advisor will tell you right away
Sep 17, 2009 8:44AM PDT
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When will Google OS come on the market
Aug 28, 2009 6:42PM PDT

Any one know when Google OS will be coming on the market. I will wait for that. I have given up on Microsoft. It's all money with them. Vista should have never been release. It is still full of bugs and as far as I can see, Windows 7 is just an update of Vista they want us to pay for. Blue screens and lock up are part of Vista and I have no doubt it is the same in Windows 7. Yeah I here all the experts say, that not vista but other background software or hardware. Lets all waist money and buy new PC with Super doper this and that. We all spend 90% of our time either on Google or another search engine that all has this software free and guess what, never give problem unless of course you are using Microsoft. Well on that front hopefully Googly's OS will fix that.

--
Yours,
Gerard.

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Re Microsoft
Sep 17, 2009 7:47AM PDT

Well I guess for you it is Apple, they are the only one on the market that claim they are perfect or close to the perfection and I guess for you it will be a all in one solution.

By the way on my PC Win 7 all the application of Google work fine if you wonder.

Did you try the upgrade advisor first before that great post of yours?

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Upgrading to Windows 7 from Vista products
Aug 29, 2009 2:57AM PDT

Can all Vista Operating systems be upgraded to Windows 7??

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Premium and above for same equivalent version of Win 7
Sep 17, 2009 7:51AM PDT

So in a sense yes, no for basic as a direct path, anyone here care to elaborate?

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Windows 7 is awesome
Aug 29, 2009 11:01AM PDT

Hey Windows 7 is awesome I have tried the Beta and RC nad its great. I have a dental Office is Ft Lauderdale Florida that I will be putting windows 7 business on all of them. I will network them together. I will make another Post when its all up and running

Take Care
Michael Barnard DDS
Http://www.BrowardDDS.com

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I like your website very much
Aug 30, 2009 2:57AM PDT

Very well done I must add.

I totally agree with you about 7 working great for productivity point of vue. For the consumer it might be different but it is getting there or it is there if the consumer accepts that most of the advanced games will not work in many cases on 7. I know I try it.

I have 4 PC desktop ranging from XP to Vista and 7 Release Candidate that I am using right now, a old laptop Toshiba XP Home Premium edition and desktop of my son?s friends also and trough in the mix a Windows Home Sever that work very well to back up all my pc including the 7 edition in addition to offer a central point for files sharing and streaming media.

As you are working in a business environment, you might be interested also by windows home server as you have less than 10 or should I said 10 PC or less will be protected with protection that go from bear metal restoration to a full working station without need of an IT person.

Look at this also before you get back to us this might be the greatest peace of mind you ever have.

Take Care,

Michel

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Do Macs have as many problems as PC's and Windows
Aug 29, 2009 2:19PM PDT

I have read all the comments and questions in this thread, and I have dealt with plenty of problems with my own computer, and I'd like to know if Macs present as many problems as PC's and Windows do? From what I have read in this discussion and others, a person practically has to go back to school just to keep up with operating their own computer. When I read that Microsoft is not helping to support moving from XP to 7, then that is just too much. I am not looking for any help in this thread, but just to give you some idea, now I cannot run my VLC media player after being able to use it for years, my Service Pack 2 disk would not supply a file that it was supposed to when I needed it to, and I cannot fax from my computer because the Windows Fax Console is not compatible with my modem, which is a name brand.

A recent article in the news talked about how the Conficker virus, released into the Internet last November, continues to confound top security experts. Several readers' comments stated that the answer is to not run Windows. At first I thought that they were just being flip, but it is true that in biology monocultures are a bad idea. A lack of genetic diversity allows them to be easily susceptible to disease, for example viruses, and other environmental stresses. Analogously, a monoculture of computer systems is also easily susceptible to viruses and other stresses, but diversity will strengthen the digital infrastructure.

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No they certainly don't have same problems as their box are.
Aug 30, 2009 3:14AM PDT

Lock tight.

You want and open commercial OS it is windows for OS and hardware. You want to do just what it is offer in Apple it is MAC without worry but without freedom of changing your configuration unless pre approved by apple,

What are you trying to say here and for you govern VLC player as always work for me since Windows 98 and if you need to change your modem, open the box and change it, try that on a Mac air? Or seal box I mean seriously you get what you are paying for.

Get a MAC Pro to have some possibility or go Windows and accept that you must know what you are doing.

Computers are not appliance yet even if apple tries to make you believe it. What do you want an Itouch the size of a desktop or a sealed box that won't let you install or change the hardware configuration so that you could resolve the fax problems..

On my "Itouch" I can't add a microphone as it wasn't there in the first place but on my desktop I can. Do you get my point, if you want a toaster that is on and off go with the all in one solution and don't bother us with fact of life.

Sorry for your modem at $15.OO dollars at best buy but oh no! Can you add me a speaker on my Itouch.. No well. You get what you spend for not the other way around.

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I spent $80 on my modem.
Aug 30, 2009 4:24AM PDT

And I did not ask for your opinion.

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No sir you did ask for my opinion when you compare to Apple
Aug 30, 2009 5:07AM PDT

Ouin is my answer.

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Upgrading OEM laptops
Aug 29, 2009 4:45PM PDT

Hi, I'm planning to get Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade for my Toshiba L300-07N which is originally (and still is) loaded with Windows Vista Home Premium. Since I bought this laptop about two months too early to get the free upgrade (mainly because I didn't know about Windows 7 at the time) and I missed the 50% off deal as well; now I'll have to get Windows 7 when it comes out!!! But I still have three questions:

-Is it okay to upgrade my OEM Toshiba laptop with a store bought copy of Windows 7?

-Can I just get Windows 7 upgrade and use it on my Windows 7 RC desktop instead of getting a full copy?

-And can I use an upgrade copy to make a clean install?

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Yes after you try the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor first.
Aug 30, 2009 3:32AM PDT

With that you will know what you need for drivers and program that might not work or need some tweaking.

Yes it is ok to upgrade from OEM without the DVD in first place, yes in a clean installation it will let you do it, but you will lose your "C" partition do a full OS backup first using the software provided from Toshiba, make sure you have all the drives needed after running the upgrade advisor and the FAC of Toshiba will help you on this.

Yes you can use and upgrade to make a clean install as long as your installation of Vista is genuine on your Laptop the upgrade DVD will see it and because you probably won't partition your small HD of your laptop, you have to understand that this will have to be clean install or nothing. I suggest that you read about this on other forum that explain the step by step and how to backup first in case you might want to go back or later if needed t reinstall 7 without a DVD of Vista in the first place, meaning reinstallation of Vista first and after go back to 7 in your case probably as you don't seem to have the DVD OEM available with you

See this How to uninstall Windows 7; http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971762

Good luck

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Windows7 RC testers
Aug 29, 2009 5:18PM PDT

Dear John, will the testers of Windows 7 RC get a free edition fore the testings of this testedition. If so, how can we get it ???????


handeweerd@live.nl, and reserve E-mailaccount handeweerd@hotmail.com.

I hope so because we are testing it fore you !!!!!!!