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Hmm...the most transparent administration ever?

Mar 18, 2015 4:23AM PDT

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RE: 91 per cent of requests — still a record low
Mar 18, 2015 5:58AM PDT

it released all or parts of records in 91 per cent of requests......91%?....THAT's a "record low"?

Was 92% considered "record low" material?

Citizens, journalists, businesses and others made a record 714,231 requests for information. The U.S. spent a record $434 million trying to keep up.

All that had to happen for the request for information to NOT be considered a success was.....

censored only a few words or an employee's phone number

a person refused to pay for copies

or the request was determined to be improper under the law


You think the gov should tell you "everything"...IF they tell you everything is there a possibility that they could also be telling YOUR enemies everything at the same time?

How many do you think were frivolous, vexatious requests? Here are some from across the pond

No less than thirty-seven zombie-related FoI requests have been made, to local councils and police forces demanding information about evacuation, and defence and attack protocols in the event of a blood-borne disease epidemic carried by the undead.

A man named Mark Smith submitted no less than five requests to Devon and Cornwall councils requesting information on what plans were in place for a comet collision with earth, extinction-level events, UFO attacks or alien invasions.

And finally, my personal favourite. Josh Lillie asked the pharmacy branch of Tesco Stores Limited (the only part of the business open to FoIs): "What is the best type of cheese that you sell?"

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(NT) So the media got it wrong?
Mar 18, 2015 6:08AM PDT
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Wrong?
Mar 18, 2015 6:40AM PDT

More than before? Sure there was. They pointed out THEIR side....I pointed out the other.

Someone says you don't respond as they think you should.....then give some figures.....

Did the media give you ALL the factors that matter OR just he factors that "prove"? THEIR point?

Just as people can get information overload....so can

Do you really believe that, in a country with approx 340,000,000 people, some of them aren't "on the fringe"...and don't make frivoulous/vexatious requests (clog the system)?

It's the TEA Party that is clogging the system.

If I may...have YOU ever made a "request for information" from the Government?

If Not.......Why not?

If yes...what happened with that request/ information?

I haven't, because, Me, knowing something that I THINK no one else knows, wouldn't change anything.

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Response to more verbiage
Mar 18, 2015 12:22PM PDT

Someone sends a request asking

who pays for Michelle Obama's expensive dresses,

Which ones were the "expensive" dresses? Request For information DENIED!...Question was nebulous.

included in the response is the statement

"We live in constant fear of upsetting the WH (White House)."

Was that part of the Request For Information?

WHY would anyone put THAT in a response to the price of dresses? Disgruntled Gov employee? NOT a Democrat? NOT a HAPPY Democrat?

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Well...this is coming from several media sources
Mar 19, 2015 1:41AM PDT

whether the verbiage is similar or not. These aren't my words and I'm not about to try and pick apart the bits and pieces of evidence to determine which are valid, which are not, or which are just plain silly.

It's not disputable that presidents make a lot of campaign promises that can sound very good. Sometimes people remember those promises and will look to see which are fulfilled and which are not. There are some who don't like the candidate and will deliberately note only the agenda items that get no attention or attention that's opposite of what was promised. These folks will jump at the chance to display when failure to abide by one's word is evident. This doesn't just happen to political persons but can happen to anyone who presents themselves as having a certain resolve on an issue...their words can and will be held against them. Some people have long memories and will almost excitedly rub those words back in the faces of those they don't care for. Maybe you know people like that.

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RE: Maybe you know people like that.
Mar 19, 2015 4:02AM PDT

We're both posting to people like that right now.

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He's posting to you
Mar 19, 2015 5:13AM PDT

are you one of those people?

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(NT) Yes...and so is he.
Mar 19, 2015 5:36AM PDT
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I did say something about doing such to people
Mar 19, 2015 6:40AM PDT

they don't care for. We've not met and I've never expressed an opinion about you as a person. For all we know, all members here could get stuck on an elevator together and get along famously...as long as no one wore name tags.

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(NT) or had burritos for lunch
Mar 20, 2015 8:44AM PDT
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RE: Some people have long memories
Mar 19, 2015 7:02AM PDT
Some people have long memories and will almost excitedly rub those words back in the faces of those they don't care for.

And HOW would THEY do that?
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The main transparency I want to see
Mar 19, 2015 2:55AM PDT

are politicians admitting that 'cuts' they promise to do aren't just cuts to the automatic increases, but are real cuts that entirely get rid of out of date or overreached regulations and rules, programs that don't work, duplicate programs, crossover programs, agencies that aren't needed anymore, etc. Then start taking some of the extra taxes that aren't going to be used for them and put that money directly towards paying down the National Debt.

I don't want to hear about 'balanced budgets' ten years down the road, knowing the next set of politicians will wipe out that promise because it isn't binding.