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History repeating itself...

May 3, 2004 12:05AM PDT

Hi, all.

A quote from an article on the background to the Cinco de Mayo,in reference to Napoleon III imposing his own idea of a proper government on Mexico.

"Mexican conservatives in Paris assure the French leader that Mexicans would welcome the stability of a European-imposed government, saying French soldiers will be hailed as liberators."

Why does this seem so familiar?

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I doesn't , Dave...
May 3, 2004 2:40AM PDT

It doesn't, Dave, unless you mean you found the word "conservative" in a historical account and are trying to use it as a spring board for a political campaign ploy in the current U.S. situation.
Those conservatives in Paris were exiles. They assured Napoleon III that the Mexican people would support a monarchy and a strong religious state.
Napoleon III had an intense dislike for the United States and the Monroe Doctrine. The Monroe Doctrine stated that the United States would oppose any European invasion into the Americas. A French stronghold in Mexico would thwart the United States' growing power and strength. Napoleon III appeared to bank on the fact that the United States, in the midst of its own civil war, would not interfere in the events in Mexico. Put crudely, an opportinity to grab a foothold while the grabbing was good.
Trying to imply that those who you brand as "Conservatives", in the current U.S. meaning of that word, are trying to impose a monarchy and a strong religious state in the current situation is too much of a stretch, even for "KonkelHistory

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It does
May 3, 2004 3:08AM PDT

We had Iraqi expatriates advising us that the Iraqi populace would welcome US troops, that there would be wholesale capitulation of forces, etc.

Dan

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J went for the old misdirection. :-)
May 3, 2004 4:30AM PDT

Rumsfeld has said it right out. We were surprised about the level of opposition afterwards.

On the other hand, the looting was to be expected, of course. Boys will be boys!

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And of course...
May 3, 2004 5:04AM PDT

And of course, Napoleon III used as the "hook" for sending troops in (to Mexico) non payment of debt. Moving along, the success of Cinco de Mayo was temporary. But then again, France's later success was temporary. Mexican politics was "wild and wooly" back during the American Civil war period, and later. That's sometimes a problem with comparisons to something that happened well over a century ago.

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Yup, pick the least important word and throw a tantrum about it. -nt.
May 3, 2004 5:39AM PDT

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Re: It does
May 3, 2004 6:03AM PDT

Hi, Dan.

>>Iraq Expatriates<< specifically the INC, currently under investigation for criminal activity yet still being paid hundreds of thousands of tax dollars per month for the same sort of intelligence that showed us where to find the WMD -- NOT!

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