Hillary's Energy Plan: Burn Old Tires

there when they burn the tires? Or will she be a safe distance away? Or do I even need to ask??

covered with earth and plants you'd never know they were there. I think some people have also used them to build houses.

Then there's the favorite, paint a tractor tire white and use it for a flower garden. Very attractive in front of the trailer.

A new town park has a playground that uses rubber pellets for the ground... great at absorbing shock. They're made from recycled tires. Also, a local indoor soccer arena uses it to pad their floors under the turf.

at least one HOUSE (in New Mexico and another in Montana) built from them.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/library/1991_October_November/Mass_Appeal
http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/remodeling/article/0,1797,HGTV_3659_1369263,00.html

ANY of those other uses could have been incorporated into an environmentally friendly, energy conservative posture but that is not what she chose to support despite her many attacks on Bush's Clear Skies Initiative. Of course that may well have been her intent because soot and smoke filled skies definitely indicate that she is against the Clear Skies Initiative.

because there's so little rubber left beneath the tread? Much more susceptible to blowout if any road debris is hit, frinstance...

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The technology of tire retreading has advanced immensely over the last 30 years or so, prodded along by long haul truck fleets that are actively seeking cost reductions without compromising safety.

These days, if the carcass to be retreaded is sound (no punctures, cuts, etc.), retreading can be safely done. A new method is the so-called "doughnut" retread, where the new tread (with an underlayer which addresses the issue you raise in your post) is cast in one seamless ring that's fitted over the carcass and then molded to fit in the same way a raw new tire is assembled, using high heat and air pressure to bond the two pieces together.

Such retreading results in a tire that gets 85 - 90% of the treadlife of a new tire with no sacrifice in performance and traction; as a matter of fact, the use of advanced polymer rubber can result in a retread that gives better performance and resistance to road hazards (punctures, etc.) than the original tread.

We have not yet been able however to retread speed rated tires (H, V, Z and other service designators for use at speeds you'll only legally see on the Autobahn) and keep the original speed rating due to the requirements of such tires' production. But for trucks and probably 60% of the cars on the road, retreading would be a viable (and less expensive) option; only the misconceptions based on past history keeps them from being produced in large numbers...

on the highway all the time? I thought they were retreads? One peeled off a truck and almost wiped out my brother-in-law on his motorcycle. Smashed the fairing pretty well.

Where can cars get these new retreads? I wouldn't mind saving some money if it's safe.

without problems. You will see sloughed caps from tractor or trailer tires along the various roadways mainly because most tractor trailers are wearing them and they tend to travel long distances without stop at relatively high speeds. Very seldom will you see a passenger car or light truck throw a cap.

This link might help you out.
http://www.retread.org/packet/index.cfm/ID/30.htm

(The link for retread tire buyer's guide will link you up with any in your immediate vicinity)

But if they are peeling off of trucks that says to me that they are inherently a hazard. My BIL could have been killed and I am sure they must cause other accidents. I see them on the highway all the time.

is comparable to that of rocks or gravel or stray bits of luggage being kicked up onto following traffic.

Any of the above can happen and can happen catastrophically but the odds against and actualities recorded make it a limited and acceptable hazard of the highways--kind of like blowouts at minimum safe tread depth or "rating" a two ply sidewall as equivalent to a 4 ply.

proposing that they just find i tire dump and set a torch to it?

Dan

Or is it yet another one-liner to make yourself sound smug and superior?

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You say that tire fires smolder for years. This can be true in some uncontrolled circumstances. Do you expect that the proposed test would yield that same result? Your comment leads the reader to think that you expect the proposed test to escalate into the uncontrolled event that your refer to.

Dan

That all the contingency plans are provided for before they light anything. Murphy's Law, environmental concerns and all that, ya know.

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crazy maybe.

Remember, she's in the political arena. The people there usually aren't the brightest bulbs, and it's not too hard to shine. For evidence, I cite the senior Senator from Illinois, Richard Durbin. I hear he's an up and coming light in the Senate. Dim.

That alone puts her light-years ahead of George W. Bush.

Then there's the whole Yale law degree thing too.

Did that mean he was dumb or inferior to LBJ?

You use eloquence to judge competence? That's very shallow. Too bad.

Making up words out of thin air is not a sign of lack of eloquence, IMO. Being President of the US and not knowing what the State of the Union Address is called ("the State of the Union Address") is also not a sign of lack of eloquence.

Has it always been called that Josh? (Hint == NO!)

Hint #2 == Research President's Annual Message to Congress (added hints 1935, FDR)

Hint #3 == 1801-1913 no speech at all

Picking on the President's speech habits and wording with regard to a phrase that is not even required by any president isn't much of a demonstration of eloquence. He could have called it "My Outlook" and been perfectly correct.

...but I suspect that you've seen the clip in which Bush struggles to remember what the speech is called before giving up and saying "That speech I give to Congress" or something like that.

Why don't you KNOW? What's the matter with you?

This is so pathetic. Please find something productive to do. Jeeeeez!

What were you expecting?



Dan

you asked that same question when people were seriously being accused of being anti-American.

Dan

Daily, as an example, was known for his 'inventive' use of the English language. It meant nothing. He had one on one relationships with several presidents including Kennedy and Johnson. By your standard, he was a flaming idiot and ignoramus to boot.

I think I'll be up all night worrying that President Bush might have called the "the State of the Union Address" something other than "the State of the Union Address". We'll have to call up the education department troops.