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Hey, Dave K, and others.........

Feb 12, 2004 6:38AM PST

......who constantly and aggressively criticize President Bush and the current administration, if you want to see a change in things come November 2004, why don't you educate others by campaigning .. FOR .. your candidate and explain how that person will change things for the better.

Take SE from a Critics Corner to a Positive Campaign.

Send informed voters to the polling places in November.

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Sounds like a good idea...
Feb 12, 2004 7:51AM PST

There hasn't been a lot posted why the sitting President should be re-elected.

Most of what I've seen has involved why this or that candidate in the primaries should not be considered.

I'm with you in wishing for positive discussion, but I fear that "negative campaigning" is with us to stay.

Angeline
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

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Re:Hey, Dave K, and others.........
Feb 12, 2004 8:52AM PST

You know Del, I think you have excellent idea here. Especially for the unknowing, uninformed people like myself, until sifting through the many Posts here. Its been a real education. Time to get Positive.

I'm beginning to get the impression, neither Canidate is any good for the Country. Have to vote for one of them, and I've been picking a loser for a long time now.

Hope it Changes.
Good Luck...George

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In agreement here, also :)
Feb 12, 2004 9:33AM PST

I, too, as George posted, am not very well informed when it comes to issues and candidates. I appreciate hearing from others their views and thoughts on the subjects and people involved, but I turn a deaf ear when it becomes something akin to a fanatic.

I get enough of the "elect (insert name/party here) because (insert name/party here) is bad". I want to hear some positive information. Turn it around and tell me why I should vote for someone because of something that person does or wants to do. Tell me why you think your favorite candidate would be the best person for the job.

This is a perfect place to get the most widely held views on just about everything. What a fantastic tool!!! Happy

Take care,
Marcia/Oregon/USA

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Re: Hey, Dave K, and others.........
Feb 12, 2004 12:32PM PST

Hi, Del.

The problem today is that you have the "blues" and the "reds," (ironic that the Republicans are the reds, eh? Happy ), and each believes that the other is taking or would take the country to hell in a hand basket. Thus the main theme of the campaign is convincing people what's wrong with the other guy's plans, with only secondary attention to what your guy would do differently. Other than love of country and that we need to fight terrorism, there's very little that George Bush and I agree on, whether it be the environment, the relative importance of the average American vs. the rich and powerful, American foreign policy, or the philosophy one wants in a Federal judge. So my major goal is changing those policies from what they are now to what they would be under Kerry (or Edwards, though that's a real long shot now).

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

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Tell us how they will change things
Feb 12, 2004 12:52PM PST

Re.....So my major goal is changing those policies from what they are now to what they would be under Kerry.....,
and all I'm suggesting is that when someone cares to offer a gripe, that they accompany that gripe with exactly how their candidate intends to change things.

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Re: Tell us how they will change things
Feb 12, 2004 9:52PM PST

Hi, Del.

The most important single issue to me is that Kerry will appoint judges who support enforcement of Federal laws by lawsuit even when the oppressor is a state government, and who will uphold a woman's right to choose and again overturn laws designed to put an undue burden on that right. Justices who will return to the 200 year old judicial tradition of applying the Constitution's principles to new situations, rather than saying "if it's not word for word in the original 200 year-old document, then the Federal government has no jurisdiction."

Second most important issue is having a President who sees the U.S. as part of the international community, rather than saying "you're with us or against us" -- one who won't alienate world opinion by a "go it alone" strategy, and who won't let personal likes and dislikes for individual world leaders dictate his foreign policy to the detriment of the nation.

How's that, for starters?

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

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Re:Re: Tell us how they will change things
Feb 13, 2004 3:48AM PST

Re How's that for starters.....GREAT

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Re:Re:Re: Tell us how they will change things
Feb 13, 2004 4:25AM PST

Hopefully MOST of us are happier with judicial appointments of judges who do NOT legislate from the bench and who realize that the Constitution is a "living document" dedicated to small and unobtrusive government.

We will be voting for Bush for those reasons as well as the fact that Bush and his policies are well supported by most of the free world's leaders excepting a few such as France whose financial interests in Iraq were the overriding primciple.

We will vote for him because he still believes in our sovereignty and ability to prosecute those who pose a threat.

We will be voting for him because he did not cave to the Kyoto treaty and as the facts become better known the "Global Warming" predictions and "proven causes" are becoming better understood as half baked projections based on knowingly flawed modeling.

We will be chiding him for his aquiescence to far too many social spending projects rather than making the less popular stance of cutting them back and eliminating many entirely.

We will be voting for him because he doesn't try to run the country by polls and has the integrity and will to stand up for what is right rather than what is politically correct or simply "popular".

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How about a
Feb 13, 2004 12:24AM PST

Hi All,

I borrowed that term from a Brit friend. What it boils down to is someone like Dave K. representing the Democratic candidate and maybe Ed taking Bush's position. Others could join as Third Party candidates and present their platforms. The "Candidates" run the campaign here in SE by presenting factual arguments from the real campaigns on why they are best for the job. At the end of a set period the members vote and we see which side wins.

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quotes in the header cut part of you off I think? try 'single quotes'
Feb 13, 2004 2:33PM PST

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